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All Blacks 2025

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    upthelanders
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    Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.

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      Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.

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      @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

      Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.

      Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

        Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.

        Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so

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        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

        @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

        Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.

        Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so

        Robertson does seem desperate to show he can unearth some sort of amazing unseen talent.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

          Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.

          Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so

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          @Duluth Fair point haha, that didn’t even cross my mind when thinking about players. They’ve got 3 Chiefs loosies + Vaii as the hybrid , but left the best one in Bay Of Plenty playing NPC 😂 (maybe I’ll give the exception to Vaa’i)

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            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

            Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach

            Funny as!

            But you'd be right; he'd be a much better coach now than he was back then.

            Lots and lots and lots of learnings.

            Not learnings, journeys....

            Heard him talkin about legacy, England and winning the women's RWC25. Still sounded full of shit

            A journey? Travelling by train or plane?

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            @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

            Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach

            Funny as!

            But you'd be right; he'd be a much better coach now than he was back then.

            Lots and lots and lots of learnings.

            Not learnings, journeys....

            Heard him talkin about legacy, England and winning the women's RWC25. Still sounded full of shit

            A journey? Travelling by train or plane?

            planes, trains, and alchos on wheels

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            • ChrisC Chris

              The what amounted to giving up in the last 15 minutes is shocking Abs teams just don't do that, to quit the contest like that shows a real lack of care and commitment.And they did opt out some players just did not commit on the tackle at all.
              I agree with Kieran Read something is not right within the group players and coaching to let that happen, no spine as Read said.
              Some players need to go if that is what they want to dish up.
              The Coaching well it looks totally in disarray with no clear path out of this mess.
              The All Blacks are no longer what they were and I do not think its coming back damage maybe done.

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              @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

              The what amounted to giving up in the last 15 minutes is shocking Abs teams just don't do that, to quit the contest like that shows a real lack of care and commitment.And they did opt out some players just did not commit on the tackle at all.
              I agree with Kieran Read something is not right within the group players and coaching to let that happen, no spine as Read said.
              Some players need to go if that is what they want to dish up.
              The Coaching well it looks totally in disarray with no clear path out of this mess.
              The All Blacks are no longer what they were and I do not think its coming back damage maybe done.

              If Read says that, there must be something serious.
              Then again when I read an article quoting him ""The self-styled innovation leaders of the world game were blown off the park" this line (not by him) seemed a tad unfair.

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                I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.

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                @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.

                Why not both?! You are in luck! We can pick a midget that "moves in slow motion"!

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                  I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.

                  Why not both?! You are in luck! We can pick a midget that "moves in slow motion"!

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                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                  I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.

                  Why not both?! You are in luck! We can pick a midget that "moves in slow motion"!

                  https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyYmtibHk2anJmbTdpbXJ6cjRnM2V5ZnZsY2Jma2xobjNiNG12dGthcSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/10foawSSAG5OnK/100.webp

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                    Sounding like a broken ankle for Noah Hotham. Ruled out for the rest of the rugby championship and potentially the end of year tour.

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      Sounding like a broken ankle for Noah Hotham. Ruled out for the rest of the rugby championship and potentially the end of year tour.

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                      @Landers92 Poor fella is having no luck with injuries, neither is Cam Roigard.

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                        Who are the loosies that everyone actually wants? Cause all I see is complaining and the only name tossed around is Dalton.

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                        @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Who are the loosies that everyone actually wants? Cause all I see is complaining and the only name tossed around is Dalton.

                        I'd like to see Josh Beehre given a chance at 6. Simon Parker and Tupou Vaii are adequate and have potential. Hopefully one of those three will kick on, but I worry about the coaching.

                        Dalton Papalii is the best 7 in my opinion. Ardie can play there but needs to play closer to the ruck than he did on Saturday. Peter Lakai is a good reserve option at 7.

                        Lots of competition at Number 8: Ardie Savea, Wallace Sititi, Hoskins Sotutu , Christian Lio-Willie. All good players, but against the top opposition you probably can only have one of them on the field at a time.

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                          I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)

                          1. Kyle Preston
                          2. Ruben Love
                          3. Leroy Carter
                          4. Quinn Tupaea
                          5. Leicester Fainga’anuku
                          6. Will Jordan
                          7. Jordie Barrett

                          Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.

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                          Nepia
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                          @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                          I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)

                          1. Kyle Preston
                          2. Ruben Love
                          3. Leroy Carter
                          4. Quinn Tupaea
                          5. Leicester Fainga’anuku
                          6. Will Jordan
                          7. Jordie Barrett

                          Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.

                          Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:

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                            @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)

                            1. Kyle Preston
                            2. Ruben Love
                            3. Leroy Carter
                            4. Quinn Tupaea
                            5. Leicester Fainga’anuku
                            6. Will Jordan
                            7. Jordie Barrett

                            Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.

                            Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:

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                            @Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)

                              1. Kyle Preston
                              2. Ruben Love
                              3. Leroy Carter
                              4. Quinn Tupaea
                              5. Leicester Fainga’anuku
                              6. Will Jordan
                              7. Jordie Barrett

                              Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.

                              Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:

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                              @Nepia Leicester is unavailable until end of year tour.

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                                @Nepia Leicester is unavailable until end of year tour.

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                                upthelanders
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                                @george33 didn’t Razor say he’s eligible for selection now?

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                                  @Nepia Leicester is unavailable until end of year tour.

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                                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Nepia Leicester is unavailable until end of year tour.

                                  Why is this directed at me? I didn't mention Leicester. 🙂

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot

                                    TBF, no point him having a big boot when the game plan is not to utilise it.

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                                      I've said all along i think Parker is a bit passive, needs an edge to his game, and obviously we need to utilise our players better (he ain't the kind of player you want to station wide) and use ones that compliment each other rather than throw the balance out.

                                      Leicester was called into the squad a couple of weeks back as injury cover, then released, but I think he can only rejoin the squad through injury now?

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                                        @Nepia Leicester is unavailable until end of year tour.

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                                        @george33 Wrong!

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                                          I remember when NZ scribes wrote about the death of Bok rugby after the 57-0. Seems as if it is the Bok scribes turn now.

                                          https://supersport.com/rugby/rugby-championship/news/4544b93f-3355-4b0b-ba2f-8fbed7d5da14/growing-pains-aside-boks-are-leaving-the-all-blacks-behind

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                                          Not sure you can really argue with the article right now. NZ rugby is in a real hole (of its own making).

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