All Blacks 2025
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@DurryMexted Savea believes in himself the way that one guy in social touch or flag football does — the selfish type who never passes, tries low-percentage trick moves he saw on YouTube and strolls back on defence. What this team needs is a tough-as-nails workhorse who’ll get stuck in and won’t hesitate to get in the ref’s ear — but no one like that exists right now.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@DurryMexted Savea believes in himself the way that one guy in social touch or flag football does — the selfish type who never passes, tries low-percentage trick moves he saw on YouTube and strolls back on defence. What this team needs is a tough-as-nails workhorse who’ll get stuck in and won’t hesitate to get in the ref’s ear — but no one like that exists right now.
Sounds like you are describing Dalton to me. Huge tackle stats, has pace out wide when needed and a smart captain.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@DurryMexted Savea believes in himself the way that one guy in social touch or flag football does — the selfish type who never passes, tries low-percentage trick moves he saw on YouTube and strolls back on defence. What this team needs is a tough-as-nails workhorse who’ll get stuck in and won’t hesitate to get in the ref’s ear — but no one like that exists right now.
Sounds like you are describing Dalton to me. Huge tackle stats, has pace out wide when needed and a smart captain.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
has pace out wide
love me some Dalts, but I reckon it's 'had'. He has not looked quick from what I've seen (noting I haven't watched as much as previous years)
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
has pace out wide
love me some Dalts, but I reckon it's 'had'. He has not looked quick from what I've seen (noting I haven't watched as much as previous years)
He's not as fast as Savea, but he's still quick
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@ExiledHalfback said in All Blacks 2025:
I think Razor and Ryan need to get on the phone and apologize to Dalton Papali'i
Ryan is too much of a prick to do that. Smug little fluffybunny.
@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@ExiledHalfback said in All Blacks 2025:
I think Razor and Ryan need to get on the phone and apologize to Dalton Papali'i
Ryan is too much of a prick to do that. Smug little fluffybunny.
I must admit, if the All Blacks were as impenetrable as the Cantabrian wagon circle we'd never leak a try.
I am, in fact, Cantabrian too.
But I agree there's a degree of arrogance about him which isn't good enough. He needs to go.
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Dave Rennie is probably the best coach that we could get. He did get some good results with a patchy Australian squad.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
Dave Rennie is probably the best coach that we could get. He did get some good results with a patchy Australian squad.
Although his Oz reign wasn't wholly successful on the field I think that in Oz rugby circles he's well regarded for making systems changes to improve the game in the country, which have made if easier for Schmidt to come in (and thankfully Jones didn't completely throw them out).
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Do people actually think Finau or Parker are the future for the All Blacks at 6? Like come on they're like ghosts on the paddock
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Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.
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Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.
Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.
Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.
Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so
Robertson does seem desperate to show he can unearth some sort of amazing unseen talent.
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Even though he’s more of a lock, a guy that I’ve always wanted to see get a crack is Naitoa Ah Kuoi. I know he’s been around the environment aswell.
Are we only allowed to pick Chiefs players at 6? We've already tried 5 other Chiefs in the last year or so
@Duluth Fair point haha, that didn’t even cross my mind when thinking about players. They’ve got 3 Chiefs loosies + Vaii as the hybrid , but left the best one in Bay Of Plenty playing NPC
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach
Funny as!
But you'd be right; he'd be a much better coach now than he was back then.
Lots and lots and lots of learnings.
Not learnings, journeys....
Heard him talkin about legacy, England and winning the women's RWC25. Still sounded full of shit
A journey? Travelling by train or plane?
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach
Funny as!
But you'd be right; he'd be a much better coach now than he was back then.
Lots and lots and lots of learnings.
Not learnings, journeys....
Heard him talkin about legacy, England and winning the women's RWC25. Still sounded full of shit
A journey? Travelling by train or plane?
planes, trains, and alchos on wheels
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The what amounted to giving up in the last 15 minutes is shocking Abs teams just don't do that, to quit the contest like that shows a real lack of care and commitment.And they did opt out some players just did not commit on the tackle at all.
I agree with Kieran Read something is not right within the group players and coaching to let that happen, no spine as Read said.
Some players need to go if that is what they want to dish up.
The Coaching well it looks totally in disarray with no clear path out of this mess.
The All Blacks are no longer what they were and I do not think its coming back damage maybe done.@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
The what amounted to giving up in the last 15 minutes is shocking Abs teams just don't do that, to quit the contest like that shows a real lack of care and commitment.And they did opt out some players just did not commit on the tackle at all.
I agree with Kieran Read something is not right within the group players and coaching to let that happen, no spine as Read said.
Some players need to go if that is what they want to dish up.
The Coaching well it looks totally in disarray with no clear path out of this mess.
The All Blacks are no longer what they were and I do not think its coming back damage maybe done.If Read says that, there must be something serious.
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I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.
Why not both?! You are in luck! We can pick a midget that "moves in slow motion"!
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.
Why not both?! You are in luck! We can pick a midget that "moves in slow motion"!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d rather have 3 midgets than a guy that moves in slow motion.
Why not both?! You are in luck! We can pick a midget that "moves in slow motion"!
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Sounding like a broken ankle for Noah Hotham. Ruled out for the rest of the rugby championship and potentially the end of year tour.
@Landers92 Poor fella is having no luck with injuries, neither is Cam Roigard.
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Who are the loosies that everyone actually wants? Cause all I see is complaining and the only name tossed around is Dalton.
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Who are the loosies that everyone actually wants? Cause all I see is complaining and the only name tossed around is Dalton.
I'd like to see Josh Beehre given a chance at 6. Simon Parker and Tupou Vaii are adequate and have potential. Hopefully one of those three will kick on, but I worry about the coaching.
Dalton Papalii is the best 7 in my opinion. Ardie can play there but needs to play closer to the ruck than he did on Saturday. Peter Lakai is a good reserve option at 7.
Lots of competition at Number 8: Ardie Savea, Wallace Sititi, Hoskins Sotutu , Christian Lio-Willie. All good players, but against the top opposition you probably can only have one of them on the field at a time.
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I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:
