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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales on consecutive weeks in November.

    I actually fancy Scotland to win against us. Can see us beating Ireland and Wales though.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales on consecutive weeks in November.

    I actually fancy Scotland to win against us. Can see us beating Ireland and Wales though.

    Ireland are waiting in the long grass.

    They aren’t what they were, but they are mighty competent.

    They get every ounce of juice out of their ability.

    Think we get turned over.

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    • U upthelanders

      @Frank Love just doesn’t do it for me tbh. Barely a standout in the NPC games he’s played this year. I don’t think he’s ever been the Hurricanes no1 option at 10, would rather see Josh Jacomb or Rivez Reihana get a shot personally.

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      @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Frank Love just doesn’t do it for me tbh. Barely a standout in the NPC games he’s played this year. I don’t think he’s ever been the Hurricanes no1 option at 10, would rather see Josh Jacomb or Rivez Reihana get a shot personally.

      I agree , I just not sure about the whole Love at 10.
      But that just me, and I make no bones, I am and have been a on the Jacomb bandwagon for a couple of seasons. But even he needs a decent super season to bed in. I think he genuinely looks to have the balance I look for in a 10. I tend to think we sometimes don't watch how a 10 runs, and just not too keen on them being to upright (if you understand what I mean), as they tend to break when the defence is close.
      Just what I kind of like to see when watching 10s.

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        I hope they take Tangitau on the EOYT.

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          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360845517/when-will-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-take-punt-ruben-love-no-10

          Media stirring the pot? If not, fuck Mounga for that shitty attitude.

          NZ Rugby's decision means Robertson must ignore Mo'unga when he picks his squad for the All Blacks' "Rugby's Greatest Rivalry'' tour of South Africa.
          Mo'unga is understood to be underwhelmed at the prospect of playing in front of small crowds in the NPC while the All Blacks tour the Republic, but unless the NZ Rugby board switches its stance he will be tethered to Canterbury.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360845517/when-will-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-take-punt-ruben-love-no-10

            Media stirring the pot? If not, fuck Mounga for that shitty attitude.

            NZ Rugby's decision means Robertson must ignore Mo'unga when he picks his squad for the All Blacks' "Rugby's Greatest Rivalry'' tour of South Africa.
            Mo'unga is understood to be underwhelmed at the prospect of playing in front of small crowds in the NPC while the All Blacks tour the Republic, but unless the NZ Rugby board switches its stance he will be tethered to Canterbury.

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360845517/when-will-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-take-punt-ruben-love-no-10

            Media stirring the pot? If not, fuck Mounga for that shitty attitude.

            NZ Rugby's decision means Robertson must ignore Mo'unga when he picks his squad for the All Blacks' "Rugby's Greatest Rivalry'' tour of South Africa.
            Mo'unga is understood to be underwhelmed at the prospect of playing in front of small crowds in the NPC while the All Blacks tour the Republic, but unless the NZ Rugby board switches its stance he will be tethered to Canterbury.

            That would be pretty unfair on the players who have been playing Super and NPC and have been committed to the ABs and have made the team on form.

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            • B brodean

              I think they will circle back to Fihaki for ABs XV

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              @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

              I think they will circle back to Fihaki for ABs XV

              Hope not he's a snail on defence unfortunately being skinned by a 7 Lucas Casey & halfback turned wing Adam Lennox lives fresh in the mind

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                taniwharugby
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                @grooter to be fair, they are both pretty quick

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                  @Grooter @taniwharugby not if your saw his catching of kicks on sunday

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360845517/when-will-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-take-punt-ruben-love-no-10

                    Media stirring the pot? If not, fuck Mounga for that shitty attitude.

                    NZ Rugby's decision means Robertson must ignore Mo'unga when he picks his squad for the All Blacks' "Rugby's Greatest Rivalry'' tour of South Africa.
                    Mo'unga is understood to be underwhelmed at the prospect of playing in front of small crowds in the NPC while the All Blacks tour the Republic, but unless the NZ Rugby board switches its stance he will be tethered to Canterbury.

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                    we know Knowler talks rubbish and doesn’t actually watch the games. Take this part for instance

                    While confirmation Beauden Barrett will be fit for the Grand Slam tour is a significant boost for the All Blacks,

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      we know Knowler talks rubbish and doesn’t actually watch the games. Take this part for instance

                      While confirmation Beauden Barrett will be fit for the Grand Slam tour is a significant boost for the All Blacks,

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                      we know Knowler talks rubbish and doesn’t actually watch the games. Take this part for instance

                      While confirmation Beauden Barrett will be fit for the Grand Slam tour is a significant boost for the All Blacks,

                      What a load of shit ( which seems all too common in the media nowadays, the dare not say anything remotely negative about a player )

                      You’d think BB was peak Dan Carter based on this crapola above.

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        Would like to have a closer look at Beehre or Shalfoon

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                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                        Would like to have a closer look at Beehre or Shalfoon

                        I think Beehre is well suited to being a traditional blindside flanker.

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                        • F frugby

                          I think Ennor should be there. I think he should be being viewed as a genuine option at centre for the All Blacks. May lack power, but is an excellent defender and distributor.

                          McLeod has had a good NPC.

                          Happy to move past Havili, but remember this is not just a development team, part of it is rewarding the next best players to keep them in the country.

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                          @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                          I think Ennor should be there. I think he should be being viewed as a genuine option at centre for the All Blacks. May lack power, but is an excellent defender and distributor.

                          It's difficult to tell with Ennor as he never seems to be able to string a bunch of performances together without getting injured or being moved by coaches.

                          At his best he demonstrates sufficient class to play well at the highest level

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            My own thoughts:

                            If Asafa Aumua is fit, he should come back as reserve Hooker. He's clearly in our top three in that position.

                            Dalton Papalii must be promoted to the All Blacks squad. He's our best 7.

                            I'd like to see Josh Beehre given a chance for the All
                            Blacks at 6. I see him, Scott Parker and (the now injured) Tupou Vaii as the three contenders for that position in 2027.

                            With Vaii out, Sam Darry should be back in the All Blacks squad at Lock.

                            We need to develop more strength in depth at 10. I'm fine with DMac starting against Ireland and England, but Ruben Love needs to given the keys against Scotland and/or Wales, with another 10 (I like Rivez Reihana) given some game time too.

                            Caleb Tangitau's pace would be useful on the Wing against both Ireland and England. I'd like to see him in the full squad and given some game time.


                            Players I've been impressed with generally in 2025 and I'd strongly consider for the All Blacks XV squad.

                            Xavier Numia, Josh Fusitua, George Dyer, Jack Taylor, Bradley Slater, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Antonio Shalfoon, Devan Flanders, Anton Segner, Corey Kurow, Christian Lio-Willie, Dylan Pledger, Josh Jacomb, Harry Godfrey, Riley Higgins, AJ Lam, Braydon Ennor, Dallas McLeod, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob R-K, Xavier Tito-Harris, Oli Mathis.

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                            Caleb Tangitau's pace would be useful on the Wing against both Ireland and England. I'd like to see him in the full squad and given some game time.

                            It's too early for him. The NPC has highlighted he has some glaring gaps in his skillset he needs to address.

                            Fix those and he could be a weapon, but I see no urgency to replace Carter.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @sparky said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                              Caleb Tangitau's pace would be useful on the Wing against both Ireland and England. I'd like to see him in the full squad and given some game time.

                              It's too early for him. The NPC has highlighted he has some glaring gaps in his skillset he needs to address.

                              Fix those and he could be a weapon, but I see no urgency to replace Carter.

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                              @antipodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                              @sparky said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                              Caleb Tangitau's pace would be useful on the Wing against both Ireland and England. I'd like to see him in the full squad and given some game time.

                              It's too early for him. The NPC has highlighted he has some glaring gaps in his skillset he needs to address.

                              Fix those and he could be a weapon, but I see no urgency to replace Carter.

                              This NPC has firmly put a stop on the Tangitau hype train from early super rugby

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                                ABs XV outsides Etene Nanai-Seturo, Caleb Tangitau, Fehi Fineanganofo, Jacob Ratumaitavuki kneepkens. I believe this is the right mix feel free to disagree

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                                  Perhaps the Oirish man you love to hate should be called in to coach your mob how to catch the high ball

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                                    Wondering if Ennor gets looked at for AB squad. And Fihaki looks a better bet than Tangitau to me at the moment.
                                    Sam Casey, Dom Gardiner, Oli Mathis, Josh Bartlett, Jack Taylor, Bailyn Sullivan, Viveni Lasaga, Dylan Pledger, Sean Withy all worth consideration for XV on current
                                    form.
                                    I remain surprised Tevita Mafileo rates ahead of George Dyer in AB pecking order.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                      I think Ennor should be there. I think he should be being viewed as a genuine option at centre for the All Blacks. May lack power, but is an excellent defender and distributor.

                                      It's difficult to tell with Ennor as he never seems to be able to string a bunch of performances together without getting injured or being moved by coaches.

                                      At his best he demonstrates sufficient class to play well at the highest level

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                      I think Ennor should be there. I think he should be being viewed as a genuine option at centre for the All Blacks. May lack power, but is an excellent defender and distributor.

                                      It's difficult to tell with Ennor as he never seems to be able to string a bunch of performances together without getting injured or being moved by coaches.

                                      At his best he demonstrates sufficient class to play well at the highest level

                                      Besides that he is not as good as Rona.

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                                        Quite a few players mentioned who havent proven anything at Super Level. I'd only expect 1 or 2 players selected based on NPC. Pledger and Casey are the only ones that spring to mind. Pledger because the options after Roigard are pretty average.

                                        But to be honest I wouldn't be surprised to only see former All Blacks or players who have shown strong super rugby form because that's who was selected last year.

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                                        • A ARHS

                                          Wondering if Ennor gets looked at for AB squad. And Fihaki looks a better bet than Tangitau to me at the moment.
                                          Sam Casey, Dom Gardiner, Oli Mathis, Josh Bartlett, Jack Taylor, Bailyn Sullivan, Viveni Lasaga, Dylan Pledger, Sean Withy all worth consideration for XV on current
                                          form.
                                          I remain surprised Tevita Mafileo rates ahead of George Dyer in AB pecking order.

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                                          @ARHS said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                          I remain surprised Tevita Mafileo rates ahead of George Dyer in AB pecking order.

                                          I could understand taking him to Arg with a smaller squad as Mafileo can play LH, but he doesn't even make the Hurricanes 23 as a TH.

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