All Blacks 2025
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Yeah, kinda three parts.
The NZ and Super components plus the assembly fees (match payments you could call them).
They get paid the components whether the play or not. And the assembly fees if they get selected.
For a player on a SR level deal, the AB assembly fees would be a very nice pay boost.
But for a player on an AB level contract, not so much. Their meat will be in the components.The whole AB set up seems to be modelled on the way an NFL team is put together.
It’s the GM (Chris Lendrum) who puts the roster together.
Then they bring in a coach (Robertson) and he brings in his assistants.
Attack coach, D coach, then the position coaches; forwards and backs.
And they do their thing, Robertson co-ordinating. Just like in the NFL.
The coach has only an indirect effect on the roster, he has to use what he is given.All NZR contracted players must be available for the Black teams.
There are 100's of them if you include PU players, so quite a big player pool.
Probably the biggest contracted player pool of any team, in any football code, in the world.
They must have some sort of spreadsheet at NZR HQ.Lendrum has signed 17 of the 23 players who played in the 23WCF.
So that’s the core thru to 27.JB was signed thru to 28.
He looks like the premier signing, and he's playing like it.
Lendrum will be pleased, he got JB paid (by Leinster) and he's come back into the fold, and playing great.
The perfect scenario.
A win/win.The GM is doing a financial balancing act at the top.
You have to be careful, or you'll be stuck with a big, fat, useless contract (ala Rashford).
He's mitigating NZR financial risks by increasing the use of sabbaticals, and giving veteran players the chance to have a nice earner.
Get used to it.If the AB coach wants to go outside that NZ pool, then he has to go whining to the GM.
That's where the Mounga thing is at now.
The GM and Mounga conversating, and the GM not just chattering with Mounga either.
Get used to it.Heard an interview with Lendrum a while ago. Talking about Sam Cane at Suntory.
He’s injured, and you could almost hear the sigh of relief in his voice; that that was Suntory’s problem not his!And heard some gossip about an NFL GM who had just signed his QB to a massive long-term deal.
He then said quietly to one of his colleagues NOW WE ARE FUCKED.
The QB market had forced him into the huge deal, but he knew that this particular QB was never going to win them a SB, and now they were stuck with him!
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Haven’t heard a lot but know this for end of year tour. Mostly common knowledge I think.
Narawa is unavailable, injury worse than thought so out for rest of 2025.
Lomax out for rest of 2025.
Vaa’i out for rest of 2025.
Hotham out for rest of 2025.
B. Barrett will be back and Tavatavanawai should be back.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
Haven’t heard a lot but know this for end of year tour. Mostly common knowledge I think.
Narawa is unavailable, injury worse than thought so out for rest of 2025.
Lomax out for rest of 2025.
Vaa’i out for rest of 2025.
Hotham out for rest of 2025.
B. Barrett will be back and Tavatavanawai should be back.
Don't think Hotham's prognosis had been confirmed, that'll be disappointing for him.
Shame about Barrett too.
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Is Luke Jacobson fit?
@family-man said in All Blacks 2025:
Is Luke Jacobson fit?
Yes. He has played for Waikato when released, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jacobson is one of the ABs available to play NPC this weekend.
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based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.
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based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.
I would almost think Cam Millar from Otago is playing as well as or better than Reihana. Mind you he is playing outside the 9 who could well be the number 2 9 in ABs by the 27 WC gets here.
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How has Harry Godfrey been playing?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.
I would almost think Cam Millar from Otago is playing as well as or better than Reihana. Mind you he is playing outside the 9 who could well be the number 2 9 in ABs by the 27 WC gets here.
@Dan54 possibly, I'm guessing Reihana probably ranked higher due to being in the driver seat for a winning super team, but his mixed NPC season (particularly kicking from hand) will have taken some of that shine away.
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Btw, one of the advantages that NZR has with a centralized system imo (and I've no idea to what extent that this is used) is the capacity to harvest data on players.
If the tech exists and the budget you could have so much data on players in the system, down to this like which players have run the most in games this past week? Who has the best acceleration, who has been lifting the most etc. You could get so much data, especially on younger players that would help you evaluate their potential.
I'd think of it as similar to the advantages that the old Eastern bloc counties had in the Olympics in the sense that the athletes were essentially state employees and their entire training program, diets (and talent ID even) could be micromanaged to the nth degree. A centralized system enables an attention to detail that a free and open system does not.
Lendrum did mention that, particularly on the medical/injury type stuff.
With central contracting he has complete info on all player injuries.
If an AB is under contract to an overseas club, he can only go on what that particular club wants to tell him.
You can clearly see where that leads.
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How has Harry Godfrey been playing?
@family-man said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
How has Harry Godfrey been playing?
Ok, but he often at 15 for the Hawke Eyes.
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based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.
It’s a funny one with Reihana, he looked far more comfortable playing for the Saders earlier in the year than some of the games I’ve watched him play this years NPC.
Whereas Jacomb has played with time and space.
If it were me and the current AB coaches don’t see Love as a 10 option, I would take Jacomb on tour with the ABs and have Reihana with the AB XV.
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I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.
It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.
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I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.
It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.
It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
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@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.
It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
@LABCAT said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.
It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
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@LABCAT said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.
It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!
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@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!
I assume he means the Chiefs don't want to let him go to anyone
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!
I assume he means the Chiefs don't want to let him go to anyone
@canefan said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
I assume he means the Chiefs don't want to let him go to anyone
sure but worth a try!
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@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?
He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.
Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!
The Blues have Beaudy! No other 10 will be willing to move there until he has retired.
