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    Jacomb

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      based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.

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        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

        based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.

        I would almost think Cam Millar from Otago is playing as well as or better than Reihana. Mind you he is playing outside the 9 who could well be the number 2 9 in ABs by the 27 WC gets here.

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          How has Harry Godfrey been playing?

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

            based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.

            I would almost think Cam Millar from Otago is playing as well as or better than Reihana. Mind you he is playing outside the 9 who could well be the number 2 9 in ABs by the 27 WC gets here.

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            @Dan54 possibly, I'm guessing Reihana probably ranked higher due to being in the driver seat for a winning super team, but his mixed NPC season (particularly kicking from hand) will have taken some of that shine away.

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            • nonpartizanN nonpartizan

              Btw, one of the advantages that NZR has with a centralized system imo (and I've no idea to what extent that this is used) is the capacity to harvest data on players.

              If the tech exists and the budget you could have so much data on players in the system, down to this like which players have run the most in games this past week? Who has the best acceleration, who has been lifting the most etc. You could get so much data, especially on younger players that would help you evaluate their potential.

              I'd think of it as similar to the advantages that the old Eastern bloc counties had in the Olympics in the sense that the athletes were essentially state employees and their entire training program, diets (and talent ID even) could be micromanaged to the nth degree. A centralized system enables an attention to detail that a free and open system does not.

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              @nonpartizan

              Lendrum did mention that, particularly on the medical/injury type stuff.
              With central contracting he has complete info on all player injuries.
              If an AB is under contract to an overseas club, he can only go on what that particular club wants to tell him.
              You can clearly see where that leads.
              Happens in soccer all the time.

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                How has Harry Godfrey been playing?

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                @family-man said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                How has Harry Godfrey been playing?

                Ok, but he often at 15 for the Hawke Eyes.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                  based on NPC, Jacomb has been more consistent and looked more assured, Reihana on the other hand, while playing well, has made some absolute howler errors, ones someone playing at his level shouldnt be making.

                  It’s a funny one with Reihana, he looked far more comfortable playing for the Saders earlier in the year than some of the games I’ve watched him play this years NPC.

                  Whereas Jacomb has played with time and space.

                  If it were me and the current AB coaches don’t see Love as a 10 option, I would take Jacomb on tour with the ABs and have Reihana with the AB XV.

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                    Arguably there's more value in a 10 playing for AB XV than the ABs given Beauden is fit and they've shown no interest in developing a 3rd 10 - at least you'll get game time as opposed to holding tackle bags.

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                      I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.

                      It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.

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                        I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.

                        It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.

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                        @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                        I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.

                        It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.

                        He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

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                          @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                          I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.

                          It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.

                          He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

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                          @LABCAT said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                          @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                          I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.

                          It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.

                          He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                          He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

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                            @LABCAT said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                            @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                            I like Jacomb as a prospect, but also he has not shown anything yet to remotely suggest he would be an upgrade on Barrett/McKenzie at Super Rugby level.

                            It is imperative he plays week in week out next season for the sake of NZR, as I personally think of those who have already played first class rugby, he is the only one at this point who looks like he could be an ABs 10.

                            He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                            He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

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                            @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                            He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                            He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                            Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                              He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                              He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                              Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                              @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                              He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                              He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                              Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

                              I assume he means the Chiefs don't want to let him go to anyone

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                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                                He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                                Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

                                I assume he means the Chiefs don't want to let him go to anyone

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                I assume he means the Chiefs don't want to let him go to anyone

                                sure but worth a try!

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                  He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                                  He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                                  Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

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                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                  He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                                  He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                                  Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

                                  The Blues have Beaudy! No other 10 will be willing to move there until he has retired.

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                    @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                    He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                                    He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                                    Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

                                    The Blues have Beaudy! No other 10 will be willing to move there until he has retired.

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                                    @LABCAT said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                    @frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                    He should probably ask to be transfered to the Highlanders then?

                                    He has. Chiefs are the ones holding it up.

                                    Then maybe he should just go up the road to the Blues!

                                    The Blues have Beaudy! No other 10 will be willing to move there until he has retired.

                                    Perofecta wasn't my idea of the answer. But he either wasn't allowed to leave, or is happy to stay and not have a chance to steer his own cutter

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                                      Arguably there's more value in a 10 playing for AB XV than the ABs given Beauden is fit and they've shown no interest in developing a 3rd 10 - at least you'll get game time as opposed to holding tackle bags.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

                                      Arguably there's more value in a 10 playing for AB XV than the ABs given Beauden is fit and they've shown no interest in developing a 3rd 10 - at least you'll get game time as opposed to holding tackle bags.

                                      I understand that some of the AB squad will be released to play England A. Seems like the game for Love in play in then.

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                                        How has Harry Godfrey been playing?

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                                        @family-man Injured currently.

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                                          If Tavatavanawai is back, does that spell the end for one of Proctor or ALB?

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