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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to zedsdeadbaby last edited by
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    @zedsdeadbaby said in Exodus:

    To an extent - but if you’re being presented one pathway to the Warriors that looks pretty straight forward then another which is more complicated, you can see the differences.

    In rugby, you could have one set of coaches at NPC telling you one thing about your development. Another set at Super (in a different city) telling you another

    I think the pathways system here does need an overhaul.

    Reading the many posts after this one, seems to point to players going through different levels/comps/teams on this pathway. Can't say I buy there's not different coaches with different ideas on that journey...

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    Plus people tend to make a bigger deal out of it if they choose the Warriors. Tevita Naufahu went to the Dolphin’s nobody cared

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    replied to Tim last edited by
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    @Tim

    Talkin about pathways . . .
    New Zealand rugby (union) is part of the NRL pathway

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    replied to Nepia last edited by
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    @Nepia said in Exodus:

    I assume the Bears will be aligned to the WA when they come in.

    If you listen to how they talk at the North Sydney Bears; the Perth Bears are going to be alligned with them, not the other way round!

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    replied to mariner4life last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Exodus:

    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    @rewa267 said in Exodus:

    The difference in the NRL is you can play in 3 different grades in the same year. Where you can't do that in New Zealand rugby with the way the season is structured. Just look at Makasini from last years schoolboy game. He played SG Ball, Jersey Flegg, NSW cup and made his NRL debut all in the same year.

    Omg.

    So good players can be moved up over the season to suit their level of talent and ability.

    I cant believe they can get away with that.

    don't fucking start. The NPC dinosaurs will gather the pitchforks and torches.

    I was doing my best to kick it off, disappointing really.

    I understand we'll lose kids to league, but the kid has a point, and the discussion in the last few posts (i.e., kids moving league clubs) is a great example.

    Think of what it means to move about in NZ: I'm at this PU trying to get games to try to get Super gigs, but then of course you might get a gig with a Super side, wahoo! But it's at the fucking opposite end of the country, so yay, you get to move to one fucking place for a few months, then back to another place (50% of this is likely to have you living in some shithole - I mean, I did go to Waikato Uni) for that time. Or, if that won't work, you'll be looking for work in the States for half the year.

    The fucking pathways in NZ are a fucking joke and from a players perspective, it's no wonder more kids are leaving.

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    replied to taniwharugby last edited by
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    @taniwharugby

    I think PUDC players get $1,250 assembly per game; so $12,500 for ten games (plus their retainer)
    There is no minimum retainer for a PUDC player.
    PUs can have as many PUDC players as they like.
    And if your PUDC retainer is under $2,500, you can walk to another PU anytime.

    PUC retainers per player are $55,000 max; $21,000 min; with $85,000 max possible for 2 veterans (8 seasons, same team).
    Individual match fees, win bonuses are part of the retainer.
    The max for a U20 player is $21,000; $25,000 if it's the second year.

    All ABs must have a PUC and get the max $5,500 per game ($55,000), and they get that even if they dont play (NZR picking up the tab).

    Official training sessions; $150 per day.

    There are NZR PU Premier comp incentive payments for NZC players,.
    NZR Incentive payments dont come under the PU salary cap.
    Two years NZC player $5,000; four years $12,500; five or more years, $35,000.

    And there are also NZR PU Premier comp incentive payments for PUC players as well,.
    4 years $5,000; 5 years + $7,500.

    Super clubs can actually make a contribution to a players PUC too, but cannot break the 55G PU max.
    This is not in the PU salary cap, or to be out of the NZR PPP.

    There are team incentives as well for finals. $75,000 for a home final.

    The Premier competition (thats what they call it) duration is for 15 weeks.
    Say $38,000 is an average comp payment, that is just over $2,500 a week.
    Which is ok, but if you dont have a NZC, it is only 15 weeks work.
    If you have a half decent day-job, you are not quitting for that money.
    If you are U20, it's only $1,400 per week

    But if you have an NZC, it's probably quite good money.
    It'll all add up nicely.
    SC money plus PU money equals not too bad.

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    wrote last edited by
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    I saw a bit of Inch playing in his school days.
    Didn't have him pegged as a league player.
    But, the money they are paying for half-backs and 5/8ths in the NRL at the mo.
    Definitely worth a shot.

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    replied to rewa267 last edited by
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    @rewa267 said in Exodus:

    Plus people tend to make a bigger deal out of it if they choose the Warriors. Tevita Naufahu went to the Dolphin’s nobody cared

    He was one of two from the 2023 NZS backline that went to RL. Caelys-Paul Putoko signed with the Titans but looks to be with the Warriors now.

    How is Francis Manuleleua going at Penrith? He wasn't selected for the NZS team as a Y13 because of his intention to play RL.

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    replied to Bovidae last edited by
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    @Bovidae Manuleulua is at the Knights now and played reserve grade most of the year.

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    Not too sure if this has been mentioned on this thread
    Ran into Levi Amua at a cafe in West Auckland this morning
    He’s off to Japan to take up a contract , did’nt elaborate which club he was going to but I wished him all the best

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    zedsdeadbaby
    wrote last edited by
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    He’s going to Yokohama/Canon

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    rewa267
    replied to Bovidae last edited by
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    @Bovidae he’s at the Knights now playing NSW Cup hasn’t debut yet in NRL

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    wrote last edited by SouthernMann
    #2918

    Willie Walker's 16-yo son Rokko Walker is off to Sydney to link up with the Dragons.

    Reported on Codesports.

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    The Legend of Marty Banks

    The Legend of Marty Banks

    Another recent Nelson College 1st XV player heading to the NRL. Harry Inch ➡️ Warriors Saumaki Saumaki ➡️ Rabbitohs Tom Perkins ➡️ Knights

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    wrote last edited by
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    Who knew that Nelson College was such a RL nursery.

    Perkins was in the NZS squad this year.

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    replied to Bovidae last edited by Higgins
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    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    Who knew that Nelson College was such a RL nursery.

    Blame it all on Simon Mannering.

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    wrote last edited by
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    FFS @Chris-B, what's going on? Ta$man is fucking broken. A couple of years back you let Taumoefolau go to Tonga and now every decent young player in the franchise (yeah I said it, you're a franchise) is going to league. Is this what happens when you spend up on out of towners and Cantabs for the benefit of the Crusaders?

    Is there even a league comp in Ta$man?

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    wrote last edited by
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    Tjay Clarke has signed for Brave Lupus in Japan.

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    replied to Bovidae last edited by
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    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

    Who knew that Nelson College was such a RL nursery.

    Perkins was in the NZS squad this year.

    Was surprised at the number of Nelson College players who made it, considering their very poor season. Good for him of course, this will be the norm I suspect.

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