ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026
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@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
More and more indications that the 4th Test will take place at a "neutral venue". An utterly bizarre decision IMHO.
It's always been in a neutral venue mate, most likely Twickenham or likewise, as extra money spinner.
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@mohikamo said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
And the Lions and the Aussies split about $120 mil profit.
You'd have to think next years tour would make at least the same amount.I wouldn't be so confident as there are big differences between the two. Firstly, there won't be tens of thousands of travelling AB fans like a BIL tour, who are prepared to pay premium prices for tickets. Secondly, while the games (especially the tests) will sellout, the ticket prices will have to be priced for the local market, so less game day revenue given the exchange rate. Broadcasting rights will be where SARU and NZR expect to make their money.
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@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
More and more indications that the 4th Test will take place at a "neutral venue". An utterly bizarre decision IMHO.
There wont be a brand left to milk if our current performances stay on the current trajectory.
They think they are Real Madrid or the the NFL with their oversees sojourns but if they keep getting spanked by Argentina et al the emperor will have no clothes.
These days the "excellence" peaks during the Haka and then steadily declines until the final whistle is blown.
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@Dan54 said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
More and more indications that the 4th Test will take place at a "neutral venue". An utterly bizarre decision IMHO.
It's always been in a neutral venue mate, most likely Twickenham or likewise, as extra money spinner.
Yeah it’s definitely never been South Africa. If they are going to cash grab I’d like to see it sit outside the series tally and just call it the rematch or whatever
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@zedsdeadbaby said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@Dan54 said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
More and more indications that the 4th Test will take place at a "neutral venue". An utterly bizarre decision IMHO.
It's always been in a neutral venue mate, most likely Twickenham or likewise, as extra money spinner.
Yeah it’s definitely never been South Africa. If they are going to cash grab I’d like to see it sit outside the series tally and just call it the rematch or whatever
Sounds like a win win to me. Of course, I don't see it getting to a decider, based on where the Boks are and where we are right now. But things can change
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Definition of a series is an interesting one.
Men in Black for example (I have the 1982 edition, the first 5 year update,*) defined a series as multiple matches played between two countries in one of those countries in a single year (it might have in a single seaso as opposed to a year ... but semantics, as I'm not sure there were too many incidences where the definition was tested).
Subsequent to the early 80s NZ and Aus starred playing Home-and-Away series (will have to look up first occurrence but definitely recall it in 1991).
So the definitions morph.
1996 of course we won 3-1 in SA, but only 2-1 in the series, the first test being excluded from the tour as it was Tri-Nations.
Playing an extra test as part of the series is therefore not that odd.
*they were intending to update every 5 years. Not sure it worked out that way. Ron Palenski did an update I think at knew stage, taking over from the original authors Chester and MacMillan. But I digress.
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@george33 said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@Dan54 I've heard Croke Park Ireland.
Could well be, I see any of them being good, Cardiff would do, I don't have a preference.
Lol I would if I could afford to go, then I would like Principality Stadium in Cardiff, but as I can't, I not worried.
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I think the 96 series was a 3 match series.
The 96 season was interesting for another reason.
That year was the very first year of pro rugby.
There was a rugby war over the summer of 95-96, establishment v Kerry Packer, and there would have been a huge amount of bills to pay.
So the ABs played the Boks 5 times that year.
Won the first four and lost the last.
NZ going 4 in a row after the unfortunateness of 1995. -
@mohikamo said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
I think the 96 series was a 3 match series.
The 96 season was interesting for another reason.
That year was the very first year of pro rugby.
There was a rugby war over the summer of 95-96, establishment v Kerry Packer, and there would have been a huge amount of bills to pay.
So the ABs played the Boks 5 times that year.
Won the first four and lost the last.
NZ going 4 in a row after the unfortunateness of 1995.That's pretty much what I said. The first test on SA soil really should ve been part of the series as well. .. I consider it 3-1... That's where Fitzy was awarded the ridiculously oversized trophy (because Yanks can't do metric)
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@Jet said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
More and more indications that the 4th Test will take place at a "neutral venue". An utterly bizarre decision IMHO.
These days the "excellence" peaks during the Haka and then steadily declines until the final whistle is blown.
NZR think they are commercially savvy and down with the Kooool Kidz, but if they really are committed to making money and torching all traditions associated with the Black Jersey in doing so, they could sell a chance to join in the Haka to highest bidder. Plenty of rich types who'd fork out for that.
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@george33 said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@Dan54 I've heard Croke Park Ireland.
It will be twickenham unless it is unavailable for some reason.
High concentration of saffas and NZers in London make it a no brainer.
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@DaGrubster said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@george33 said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@Dan54 I've heard Croke Park Ireland.
It will be twickenham unless it is unavailable for some reason.
High concentration of saffas and NZers in London make it a no brainer.
And capacity
And potential 1 v 2 showdown for the neutral
No brainer
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@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@Jet said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@sparky said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
More and more indications that the 4th Test will take place at a "neutral venue". An utterly bizarre decision IMHO.
These days the "excellence" peaks during the Haka and then steadily declines until the final whistle is blown.
NZR think they are commercially savvy and down with the Kooool Kidz, but if they really are committed to making money and torching all traditions associated with the Black Jersey in doing so, they could sell a chance to join in the Haka to highest bidder. Plenty of rich types who'd fork out for that.
Will never happen
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@DaGrubster said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@george33 said in ALL BLACKS TOUR TO SOUTH AFRICA 2026:
@Dan54 I've heard Croke Park Ireland.
It will be twickenham unless it is unavailable for some reason.
High concentration of saffas and NZers in London make it a no brainer.
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