All Blacks 2025
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
About the time our forwards actually started playing like forwards....
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
Oi! Keep complaining and Roigard will change sports, leaving us with Christie! This guy is class.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
Oi! Keep complaining and Roigard will change sports, leaving us with Christie! This guy is class.
If you want to jump off the wagon, you can walk home!Hey hey, I was first on the wagon, I just know he can be better. Let's hope he reverts to that running game earlier in a game than what he did in Chicago.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@MiketheSnow That's Scott Hansen at the moment.
No that is Tamati Ellison he is defence coach.
Hansen is backline strategic coaching and planning and also working with the Hbs and First Fives.Sounds like the backline buck stops with Hansen.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@MiketheSnow That's Scott Hansen at the moment.
No that is Tamati Ellison he is defence coach.
Hansen is backline strategic coaching and planning and also working with the Hbs and First Fives.Sounds like the backline buck stops with Hansen.
Yes it does
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
i saw the same thing you did but came to a slightly different conclusion, we were very slow getting into shape, roigard would get to the breakdown and look up and player were still in motion positioning themselves
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
Oi! Keep complaining and Roigard will change sports, leaving us with Christie! This guy is class.
If you want to jump off the wagon, you can walk home!Hey hey, I was first on the wagon, I just know he can be better. Let's hope he reverts to that running game earlier in a game than what he did in Chicago.
Are you still on the Proctor bandwagon or have you switched to the Leicester express ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
Oi! Keep complaining and Roigard will change sports, leaving us with Christie! This guy is class.
If you want to jump off the wagon, you can walk home!Hey hey, I was first on the wagon, I just know he can be better. Let's hope he reverts to that running game earlier in a game than what he did in Chicago.
Are you still on the Proctor bandwagon or have you switched to the Leicester express ?
I still think Proctor is someone to persist with and I'm sure he'll get another chance at some point, he's still a class act but needs to learn how to make more of an impact at test level. Tupaea rightfully deserved his opportunity and then Leicester also looked good. I don't mind who's in the jersey out of those three, as long as we don't revert back to Ioane or ALB.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
Oi! Keep complaining and Roigard will change sports, leaving us with Christie! This guy is class.
If you want to jump off the wagon, you can walk home!Hey hey, I was first on the wagon, I just know he can be better. Let's hope he reverts to that running game earlier in a game than what he did in Chicago.
Are you still on the Proctor bandwagon or have you switched to the Leicester express ?
I still think Proctor is someone to persist with, he's still a class act but needs to learn how to make more of an impact at test level. Tupaea rightfully deserved his opportunity and then Leicester also looked good. I don't mind who's in the jersey out of those three, as long as we don't revert back to Ioane or ALB.
They'll go with ALB/Proctor for Wales I reckon. Could be a good confidence booster for Proctor running in a few against them.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't mind who's in the jersey out of those three, as long as we don't revert back to Ioane or ALB.
Then at this stage it's Red Leicester and the mighty Quinn*. The cupboard is mighty bare. Until Higgins rides in and saves us. It looks like my subtle attempt to get
BenAJ Lam into the mix last year was never going to bear fruit.*Q-Tips.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't mind who's in the jersey out of those three, as long as we don't revert back to Ioane or ALB.
Then at this stage it's Red Leicester and the mighty Quinn*. The cupboard is mighty bare. Until Higgins rides in and saves us. It looks like my subtle attempt to get Ben Lam into the mix last year was never going to bear fruit.
*Q-Tips.
Baba O.......
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't mind who's in the jersey out of those three, as long as we don't revert back to Ioane or ALB.
Then at this stage it's Red Leicester and the mighty Quinn*. The cupboard is mighty bare. Until Higgins rides in and saves us. It looks like my subtle attempt to get Ben Lam into the mix last year was never going to bear fruit.
*Q-Tips.
Ben or his bro AJ?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
Until Higgins rides in and saves us
We won't even need two players in the midfield, Riley can wear the 12.5 jersey and cover both roles with his eyes closed.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't mind who's in the jersey out of those three, as long as we don't revert back to Ioane or ALB.
Then at this stage it's Red Leicester and the mighty Quinn*. The cupboard is mighty bare. Until Higgins rides in and saves us. It looks like my subtle attempt to get Ben Lam into the mix last year was never going to bear fruit.
*Q-Tips.
Ben or his bro AJ?
well spotted. AJ. Not Ben.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
i saw the same thing you did but came to a slightly different conclusion, we were very slow getting into shape, roigard would get to the breakdown and look up and player were still in motion positioning themselves
We seemed to run harder in the last 20 minutes, compared to our lack of flow in the first half where our forwards refused to truck it up over multiple phases. Perhaps Cam was thrown off by this
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life Well he is a key player for sure, but some of this stuff is a bit over the top. He wasn't the best 9 on the field in his last game, despite the try.
Yeah, I felt it was odd that Roigard waited until the last 20 mins to run the ball. Pretty much all he did before that was pass, pass, pass.
I think he just needs to demand the ball and back himself to get the team moving forward more.
Am I misremembering also that he was pretty fucking sloppy to start with? I'm sure I recall passes going all over the show.
Yeah and a bit slow at clearing the ball, didn't seem to wake up until about 60 mins, needs to be better.
Oi! Keep complaining and Roigard will change sports, leaving us with Christie! This guy is class.
If you want to jump off the wagon, you can walk home!Hey hey, I was first on the wagon, I just know he can be better. Let's hope he reverts to that running game earlier in a game than what he did in Chicago.
Are you still on the Proctor bandwagon or have you switched to the Leicester express ?
Man you can't get on the Leicester express yet surely, he's had what a part game at 13, and before Saturday I thought most were getting on the Quinn express at 13. Cost us a fortune for tickets to them all.
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@Dan54 we'll get on the "anyone that shows promise at centre" express. Agree it's early days, but both Quinn and Leicester have shown by far the most ball in hand so should be persevered with on that basis. The real test will be on defense though, we know Rieko is one of the best defensive centres we've had and if those guys make poor reads that cost us in tight matches, that will count against them in a big way.
