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  • MN5M Online
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    27 Tests into Razors tenure and nobody other than Beaudy and DMAC has started at 10.

    That stat is obscene

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    Devlin gone off on them.

    I don't get Devlin's call for the assistant coaches to get sacked but keep Razor in his job, a call that has been made on here by some as well. Razor is the boss, the buck stops with him.

    Probably because Fozzie was afforded that , he thinks that’s the acceptable way of changing things up without going the full sacking

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    Another game confirming my beliefs:
    The team is poorly selected. Poorly coached. Poorly lead

    Razor is an idiot. His assistants are massively out of their depth.

    And nothing will signify change from this erosion of excellence, this slide into mediocrity until Ardie's performance is reflected in his selection.

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    We have a whole lot of players who are all at very similar levels. Or there is a lack of trust in guys who should get a go.

    We just need to roll the dice on some lads.

    The treatment of Reuben Love is such a joke. If he is rated. Give the kid a go. At the momemt he is just an exceptionally expensive dirt tracker. Run him at 10. See if it works.

    I want to see Super teams. Develop bench specialists. Then the ABs pick bench specialists. I think of guys like Hurley, Fakatava, Tosi, Aumua/Taukei'aho. Guys who can lift the intensity. Not the next man up. Paddy T another classic example at lock (although will.always start for the Blues).

    It is nuts that ALB is considered a guy who is seen as a worthwhile option to come on with 30 to go. Who are our misfilders who csn terroise tired teams? Or an outside back who can do the same.

    Why are we picking lumbering or slow outside backs. Is LF fast enough to be a winger? If not. Don’t play him there. Pick him as a centre.

    We need to be more open in trying things. Whether it is Love, Tangitau, Fakatava, bringing back Papali’i, thinking whether the captain is the best player in his position or if Savea is best suited to wearing no 20.

    We also need to consider whether more needs to be intvested invested into having the ABXV play more. The Maori side is important from a heritage perspective. It just excludes a lot of players from a mid-season high performance perspective.

    We need a team picked on form. Not just on continuity of selection. Players who deserve to be picked should be. Players who should be dropped need to be.

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    Surely NZR could save a bunch of cash by sending a squad of 23 and if they need additional they get them from the AB XV since Razor isn't interested in using his wider squad.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Surely NZR could save a bunch of cash by sending a squad of 23 and if they need additional they get them from the AB XV since Razor isn't interested in using his wider squad.

    We should be playing the ABXV before every All Black game. Have our high perpfrmance guys playing not holding tackle bags and wearing suits in the stand.

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    Our loose forwards remain a problem. Lakai put in a lot of effort but his actual impact was Blackadder like. He has a slightly lower workrate than Blackadder but is more accurate. He has so far not been a high impact player at test level.

    Its pretty disappointing when a back in Proctor makes the most tackles in the team and the starting loose forwards rank 5th, 6th and 7th in tackles completed in what was a poor defensive effort overall.

    According to the rugbypass stats Sititi made zero tackles despite being on the field for 26 minutes.

    Tupaea, Lord, and Newell made more tackles than Savea and Lakai despite the former three being subbed for the final quarter while the two loosies played the entire game.

    The loosies did not pull their weight in defence and this is not the first time this year. Have they been told to hang off tackles and look for turnovers or is that the way they play at Super level too? Whatever it is it's not working.

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    The team needs to start with a blank sheet of paper,, forget what’s known, ignore players’ past exploits and design a plan from scratch. Then pick the players who fit, as if assessing them for the first time. Every tactic, role and structure should be rebuilt around what could actually work, not what’s been tried so far. .

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    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:

    The team needs to start with a blank sheet of paper,, forget what’s known, ignore players’ past exploits and design a plan from scratch. Then pick the players who fit, as if assessing them for the first time. Every tactic, role and structure should be rebuilt around what could actually work, not what’s been tried so far. .

    That's kind of what I expected from Razor in the first place

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Our loose forwards remain a problem. Lakai put in a lot of effort but his actual impact was Blackadder like. He has a slightly lower workrate than Blackadder but is more accurate. He has so far not been a high impact player at test level.

    Its pretty disappointing when a back in Proctor makes the most tackles in the team and the starting loose forwards rank 5th, 6th and 7th in tackles completed in what was a poor defensive effort overall.

    According to the rugbypass stats Sititi made zero tackles despite being on the field for 26 minutes.

    Tupaea, Lord, and Newell made more tackles than Savea and Lakai despite the former three being subbed for the final quarter while the two loosies played the entire game.

    The loosies did not pull their weight in defence and this is not the first time this year. Have they been told to hang off tackles and look for turnovers or is that the way they play at Super level too? Whatever it is it's not working.

    Parker made nine tackles and apparently two runs for no metres. That's Owen Franks level impact with ball in hand.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Our loose forwards remain a problem. Lakai put in a lot of effort but his actual impact was Blackadder like. He has a slightly lower workrate than Blackadder but is more accurate. He has so far not been a high impact player at test level.

    Its pretty disappointing when a back in Proctor makes the most tackles in the team and the starting loose forwards rank 5th, 6th and 7th in tackles completed in what was a poor defensive effort overall.

    According to the rugbypass stats Sititi made zero tackles despite being on the field for 26 minutes.

    Tupaea, Lord, and Newell made more tackles than Savea and Lakai despite the former three being subbed for the final quarter while the two loosies played the entire game.

    The loosies did not pull their weight in defence and this is not the first time this year. Have they been told to hang off tackles and look for turnovers or is that the way they play at Super level too? Whatever it is it's not working.

    Parker made nine tackles and apparently two runs for no metres. That's Owen Franks level impact with ball in hand.

    Can that really be considered playing both sides of the ball?

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  • MN5M Online
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Our loose forwards remain a problem. Lakai put in a lot of effort but his actual impact was Blackadder like. He has a slightly lower workrate than Blackadder but is more accurate. He has so far not been a high impact player at test level.

    Its pretty disappointing when a back in Proctor makes the most tackles in the team and the starting loose forwards rank 5th, 6th and 7th in tackles completed in what was a poor defensive effort overall.

    According to the rugbypass stats Sititi made zero tackles despite being on the field for 26 minutes.

    Tupaea, Lord, and Newell made more tackles than Savea and Lakai despite the former three being subbed for the final quarter while the two loosies played the entire game.

    The loosies did not pull their weight in defence and this is not the first time this year. Have they been told to hang off tackles and look for turnovers or is that the way they play at Super level too? Whatever it is it's not working.

    Parker made nine tackles and apparently two runs for no metres. That's Owen Franks level impact with ball in hand.

    Can that really be considered playing both sides of the ball?

    He gets selected so apparently it can. Great use of his size.

    How is 0 metres from two runs even possible ? Do they round each metre down ?

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    wrote last edited by canefan
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    He came in to much fanfare. Now after such a poor performance this season it's time for Razor's crew to reap the whirlwind. I won't be satisfied with anything less than all of his assistants bar Ryan (I'd come close to firing him too after the way he (mis)managed Hoskins) getting shown the door

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    replied to ShaquilleOatmeal last edited by
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    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:

    The team needs to start with a blank sheet of paper,, forget what’s known, ignore players’ past exploits and design a plan from scratch. Then pick the players who fit, as if assessing them for the first time. Every tactic, role and structure should be rebuilt around what could actually work, not what’s been tried so far. .

    All well and good but we are two years into a World Cup cycle.

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    replied to canefan last edited by sparky
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    He came in to much fanfare. Now after such a poor performance this season it's time for Razor's crew to reap the whirlwind. I won't be satisfied with anything less than all of his assistants bar Ryan (I'd come close to firing him too after the way he (most)managed Hoskins) getting shown the door

    I'll save my Scott Robertson's annual review post until after the final test, but yeah at a bare minimium the assistants bar Ryan need to go, we need an experienced voice on selection back on the panel (Grant Fox? Steve Hansen? Ian Foster? Vern Cotter?) and it needs be pointed out to Robertson that his management of certain talented players (Harry Plummer, Ruben Love, Hoskins Sotutu) has been absolutely appalling.

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  • ShaquilleOatmealS Offline
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    replied to sparky last edited by
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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:

    The team needs to start with a blank sheet of paper,, forget what’s known, ignore players’ past exploits and design a plan from scratch. Then pick the players who fit, as if assessing them for the first time. Every tactic, role and structure should be rebuilt around what could actually work, not what’s been tried so far. .

    All well and good but we are two years into a World Cup cycle.

    Yes, and they’re almost out of time. Would you rather they start from scratch now or continue with things as is?

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    replied to ShaquilleOatmeal last edited by
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    @ShaquilleOatmeal Big changes are needed that's for sure.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    He came in to much fanfare. Now after such a poor performance this season it's time for Razor's crew to reap the whirlwind. I won't be satisfied with anything less than all of his assistants bar Ryan (I'd come close to firing him too after the way he (mis)managed Hoskins) getting shown the door

    my mate had a totally speculative theory that they broke the bank for assistant coaches moving Leon on ... and that's why we get cut rate Tamati and are loathe to pay out existing assistants.

    Like I said. musings only. But interesting conspiracy theory 🙂

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    wrote last edited by
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    Two years is enough to rejig and quite frankly 1/3 is good enough as a foundation, the front row. We have an excellent 9 and probably have some decent backup options. DMac is good enough for a year or two as 10 as others are also trialled, and our wings are decent (Clarke, Narawa, Jordan, possibly Tangitau, jury out on Carter at the moment). Loosies and midfield are the concern. Actually we have some decent loosies just missing the combos, right selection and depth at 6 and 8.
    So it isn't back to square 1, except for most of the tactics. But it might be good to have new tactics going into the next RWC cycle.

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  • BonesB Online
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    Interested in why many seem to be suddenly down on Carter. Is it just the missed tackle?

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