All Blacks 2025
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
low intelligence setup.
That, for me, is the heart of the problem. It's comfortably the least cerebral, low IQ approach to the game I can remember from an All Blacks team. The culture reeks of complacency and smug, self-satisfaction.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
A lot of players have gone backwards this year. e.g. Taueki'aho, Williams, Ratima.
A lot of duds selected. Certain very good players ignored.
Poor coaching, biased selections, low intelligence setup.
Taueki'aho has been disappointing for more than just this year, and Ratima I think played above himself last year ( he petered out last year) and has probably reverted to type. I will concede Williams.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Our loose forwards remain a problem. Lakai put in a lot of effort but his actual impact was Blackadder like. He has a slightly lower workrate than Blackadder but is more accurate. He has so far not been a high impact player at test level.
Its pretty disappointing when a back in Proctor makes the most tackles in the team and the starting loose forwards rank 5th, 6th and 7th in tackles completed in what was a poor defensive effort overall.
According to the rugbypass stats Sititi made zero tackles despite being on the field for 26 minutes.
Tupaea, Lord, and Newell made more tackles than Savea and Lakai despite the former three being subbed for the final quarter while the two loosies played the entire game.
The loosies did not pull their weight in defence and this is not the first time this year. Have they been told to hang off tackles and look for turnovers or is that the way they play at Super level too? Whatever it is it's not working.
Parker made nine tackles and apparently two runs for no metres. That's Owen Franks level impact with ball in hand.
Can that really be considered playing both sides of the ball?
Yes it turns out one can play both sides of the ball without actually affecting it.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet 09:30 in and Devlin drops another truth bomb. Two years in and who has Robertson coached to be a better player?
Maybe Fabian Holland, Tupou Vaii, Josh Lord and Peter Lakai but it's not a long list.
Newell has improved around the field but it wasn't a high bar. Still, good on him (up to this game, at least).
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From a quality source:
- Ellison responsible for breakdown and defence. Has had no success in either area before other than crusaders
- Hansen is responsible for attack is hated by everyone other than Razor. He’s why MacDonald and Holland have quite. Love challenged him on attack strategy and has been black listed since
- real risk is that if Razor gets sacked, there won’t be a long list of applicants, hence they gave Jamie Joseph the All Blacks Marketing XV as a natural progression
- net net a total shit show!!
Take this for what it is
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
From a quality source:
- Ellison responsible for breakdown and defence. Has had no success in either area before other than crusaders
- Hansen is responsible for attack is hated by everyone other than Razor. He’s why MacDonald and Holland have quite. Love challenged him on attack strategy and has been black listed since
- real risk is that if Razor gets sacked, there won’t be a long list of applicants, hence they gave Jamie Joseph the All Blacks Marketing XV as a natural progression
- net net a total shit show!!
Take this for what it is
If everyone hate Hansen but Razor then that is on Razor.
I can't see them getting rid of Razor and Ryan (Ryan: only deserves to go if it is true he kept all the Blues loosies out) but not sure what else is keeping Ellison's and Hansen's positions safe. Aren't there good replacements out there? -
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
If they fire Razor it will be another uncomfortable first. I don't expect it even though he deserves it
Does anyone have inside goss on the KPIs they gave him?
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The question they have to ask is whether Razor can successfully turn this around. One issue he faces, is the need to move on a nucleus of the squad he has trusted for his first two years, including changing his captain.
From a man management point of view, to keep other players on side, it is way easier for a new coach to do that.
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I don't think changing a captain is a big deal if the captain isn't actually doing anything much and doesn't seem to interact with the team, his own team.
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The big question for me is, are they going to set a precedent and fire Surf Jesus? Even in the horror year of 1998 John Hart kept his job. Of course he was probably still dining out on the 1996 series win. If they don't fire Razor, or force him into serious changes of his coaching team, the SA tour next year could be a bloodbath
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Money aside, I think this is a little different to Foster. Possibly easier to just sweep house then trying to make this regime work.
Speaking of money... three of our most washed/unused players are some of the highest paid on NZRU's books - Beauden, ALB and Rieko.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Money aside, I think this is a little different to Foster. Possibly easier to just sweep house then trying to make this regime work.
Speaking of money... three of our most washed/unused players are some of the highest paid on NZRU's books - Beauden, ALB and Rieko.
Someone should be fired for those contracts
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
A lot of players have gone backwards this year. e.g. Taueki'aho, Williams, Ratima.
A lot of duds selected. Certain very good players ignored.
Poor coaching, biased selections, low intelligence setup.
Taueki'aho has been disappointing for more than just this year, and Ratima I think played above himself last year ( he petered out last year) and has probably reverted to type. I will concede Williams.
Ratima's deterioration in performance last year, and continuation of that this year coincide somewhat suspiciously with a change in selection at 10.
