All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet 09:30 in and Devlin drops another truth bomb. Two years in and who has Robertson coached to be a better player?
Maybe Fabian Holland, Tupou Vaii, Josh Lord and Peter Lakai but it's not a long list.
Newell has improved around the field but it wasn't a high bar. Still, good on him (up to this game, at least).
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From a quality source:
- Ellison responsible for breakdown and defence. Has had no success in either area before other than crusaders
- Hansen is responsible for attack is hated by everyone other than Razor. He’s why MacDonald and Holland have quite. Love challenged him on attack strategy and has been black listed since
- real risk is that if Razor gets sacked, there won’t be a long list of applicants, hence they gave Jamie Joseph the All Blacks Marketing XV as a natural progression
- net net a total shit show!!
Take this for what it is
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
From a quality source:
- Ellison responsible for breakdown and defence. Has had no success in either area before other than crusaders
- Hansen is responsible for attack is hated by everyone other than Razor. He’s why MacDonald and Holland have quite. Love challenged him on attack strategy and has been black listed since
- real risk is that if Razor gets sacked, there won’t be a long list of applicants, hence they gave Jamie Joseph the All Blacks Marketing XV as a natural progression
- net net a total shit show!!
Take this for what it is
If everyone hate Hansen but Razor then that is on Razor.
I can't see them getting rid of Razor and Ryan (Ryan: only deserves to go if it is true he kept all the Blues loosies out) but not sure what else is keeping Ellison's and Hansen's positions safe. Aren't there good replacements out there? -
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
If they fire Razor it will be another uncomfortable first. I don't expect it even though he deserves it
Does anyone have inside goss on the KPIs they gave him?
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The question they have to ask is whether Razor can successfully turn this around. One issue he faces, is the need to move on a nucleus of the squad he has trusted for his first two years, including changing his captain.
From a man management point of view, to keep other players on side, it is way easier for a new coach to do that.
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I don't think changing a captain is a big deal if the captain isn't actually doing anything much and doesn't seem to interact with the team, his own team.
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The big question for me is, are they going to set a precedent and fire Surf Jesus? Even in the horror year of 1998 John Hart kept his job. Of course he was probably still dining out on the 1996 series win. If they don't fire Razor, or force him into serious changes of his coaching team, the SA tour next year could be a bloodbath
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Money aside, I think this is a little different to Foster. Possibly easier to just sweep house then trying to make this regime work.
Speaking of money... three of our most washed/unused players are some of the highest paid on NZRU's books - Beauden, ALB and Rieko.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Money aside, I think this is a little different to Foster. Possibly easier to just sweep house then trying to make this regime work.
Speaking of money... three of our most washed/unused players are some of the highest paid on NZRU's books - Beauden, ALB and Rieko.
Someone should be fired for those contracts
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
A lot of players have gone backwards this year. e.g. Taueki'aho, Williams, Ratima.
A lot of duds selected. Certain very good players ignored.
Poor coaching, biased selections, low intelligence setup.
Taueki'aho has been disappointing for more than just this year, and Ratima I think played above himself last year ( he petered out last year) and has probably reverted to type. I will concede Williams.
Ratima's deterioration in performance last year, and continuation of that this year coincide somewhat suspiciously with a change in selection at 10.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't think changing a captain is a big deal if the captain isn't actually doing anything much and doesn't seem to interact with the team, his own team.
To move on Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown and potentially Ardie Savea is way easier said than done from a team dynamics point of view. That's your captain, his deputy, your most capped player, and a guy who I imagine holds a lot of mana in the dressing room.
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@reprobate That is letting off Ratima way too lightly... generally the 10s performance is linked to the halfback, not the other way around.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't think changing a captain is a big deal if the captain isn't actually doing anything much and doesn't seem to interact with the team, his own team.
To move on Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown and potentially Ardie Savea is way easier said than done from a team dynamics point of view. That's your captain, his deputy, your most capped player, and a guy who I imagine holds a lot of mana in the dressing room.
I fear we will have to suffer through more pain until a poor RWC27 campaign. Only then will the NZR clear the decks after massive damage has been done to the "brand"
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Not getting the ball out of a retreating scrum was doing my head in.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate That is letting off Ratima way too lightly... generally the 10s performance is linked to the halfback, not the other way around.
Oh look he's to blame for a lot of his own mistakes, but it does go both ways. Things like e.g. BB's kicking makes us heavily reliant on Roigard's kicking - Ratima's is not as good, so he gets exposed more if he's paired with a 10 who can't kick.
