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  • gt12G Offline
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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    OK let me rephrase that.
    He won't play for the ABs AGAIN whilst Robertson is coach.
    No need to be a fwit

    And the entire fern slides into Nogusta’s PMs.

    As a rule, you’ve had the best info on Blues / Auckland (and recently Landers), so this is likely a very good piece of info.

    It raises a thousand question of course…

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    replied to Nogusta last edited by
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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Is this connected to Robertson's treatment of Sotutu, their was a lot of talk that he and Ryan leaked his non-selection before the 2024 final, which seemed rather spiteful of them.

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    @brodean there's kinda evidence at present time, Lio-Willie replaced Finau on tour yet why didn't Dalton Replace Jacobson?

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    @tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    Nothing to suggest Robertson hasn't got the people he wanted from the start, but with the shambles that is NZR, who knows?

    Yes there is, he wanted Tony Brown. You can find sources online.

    If we wanted Tony Brown, they should have chosen Jamie Joseph. The fact that Brown went to SA probably says a lot about how other coaches - outside the Crusaders - feel about working with Razor.

    My concern is who they could get to come in who would actually be better than what we have...

    It's well known that Razor rejected any other role than Head Coach with his team.

    Although I believe we need new assistants and we do need change, I'm not sure that we should be looking to change over the assistants - will a new attack coach with no international experience be any better amongst this team than what we have?

    The correct strategic choice for the new CEO of NZRU is to do a complete evaluation of the current team.

    My recall is Tony Brown believed accepting would not be loyal to Joseph, don't know what he actually thought of Razor et al.
    But then he went to work for the Boks...

    Tony Brown and Joe Scmidt. have both actively sought to hurt NZ rugby and the All Blacks by working to get high level opponents to the level they can beat us when their were roles on offer in NZ rugby. Can't understand why so many NZ rugby fans have any respect for this. They are not they answer.

    Vern Cotter like Graham Henry only coached also rans who where no real threat to the All Blacks, same with Jamie Joseph. These are the guys we should be looking to not a couple of mercenaries who sell out to the highest bidder.

    That’s absolute fucking horseshit

    That’s on NZRFU not the individuals

    The best aspire to play for the best teams, coach the best teams, beat the best teams, and be the best

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    replied to Grooter last edited by
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    @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean there's kinda evidence at present time, Lio-Willie replaced Finau on tour yet why didn't Dalton Replace Jacobson?

    So the Blues back row dominates their way to a SR title and none of them make the ABs? Now the main complaint about our loosies is they are small and not physically imposing 🙄🤦🤷

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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    OK let me rephrase that.
    He won't play for the ABs AGAIN whilst Robertson is coach.
    No need to be a fwit

    And the entire fern slides into Nogusta’s PMs.

    As a rule, you’ve had the best info on Blues / Auckland (and recently Landers), so this is likely a very good piece of info.

    It raises a thousand question of course…

    Given it's come from @Nogusta I'm prepared to entertain the statement.

    Because if we're honest it sits within the broader observation that it's not a happy squad.

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    @antipodean

    Traditionally the best source on the forum so I’m prepared to accept it.

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    @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean there's kinda evidence at present time, Lio-Willie replaced Finau on tour yet why didn't Dalton Replace Jacobson?

    That's not evidence that it is Papali'i's decision is it? The comment said it was "DPs decision". There is zero evidence that any of those things were DP's decision.

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    wrote last edited by
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    @brodean your protestations against a very reliable word make it seem like you know something we don't? Tell us man...

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    @george33 Have you heard anything about this?

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    If that's true, then he is a very weird pick as captain for ABXV, and singled out for praise by JJ...

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    If that's true, then he is a very weird pick as captain for ABXV, and singled out for praise by JJ...

    Could very well be the opposite - he’s the ideal choice and I assume the choice of captsin is up to Joseph.
    He’d be very close to my pick for AB captain - I reckoned 18 months ago he was going to be named it.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    If that's true, then he is a very weird pick as captain for ABXV, and singled out for praise by JJ...

    How long is JJ committed to the Highlanders for? Maybe he's setting up his future captain for a Japanese team?

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    If that's true, then he is a very weird pick as captain for ABXV, and singled out for praise by JJ...

    Could very well be the opposite - he’s the ideal choice and I assume the choice of captsin is up to Joseph.
    He’d be very close to my pick for AB captain - I reckoned 18 months ago he was going to be named it.

    Me too

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    wrote last edited by Victor Meldrew
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    Throwing something out here, but I'm beginning to wonder if a key (or main?) issue is Robertson not trusting his players - and his coaches.

    Media savvy, uber-confident bloke promotes himself in the media to get the job, NZR board fixated on media image gets dazzled by the projected image but the job is way harder than expected. Difficult for both parties to admit there's a serious problem so look everywhere but their own front door.

    Seen it plenty of times in business and it generally doesn't end well.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Any other AB coach in the last thirty years would be getting “should be fired” coverage from the media for shitty results like this.

    He’s very lucky the media are just fans these days, scared of losing access.

    Settle in folks, going to get worse from here.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    If that's true, then he is a very weird pick as captain for ABXV, and singled out for praise by JJ...

    Could very well be the opposite - he’s the ideal choice and I assume the choice of captsin is up to Joseph.
    He’d be very close to my pick for AB captain - I reckoned 18 months ago he was going to be named it.

    Could also be JJ signalling his intentions in case we lose to Wales...

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