All Blacks 2025
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:
Why do people always say except Jason Ryan. That fat fucker is the one who wants to exclude Talented players from selection because of personal issues. The forwrds have gone backwards this year as well if you take out Fabien Holland (nothing to do with Ryan) adding some much needed size, power and workrate. Our Scrum and lineout have both been dismantled at various times this year and we constantly lack go forward in contact. Thanks to Ryan the best power runners in NZ rugby are lost to us with one likely to turn up in England colours before the next world cup and the only decent 7 in terms of workrate and the physical size required for test rugby looks to be going the same way. Our best impact lock will probably follow next year. The majority of that appears to be down to Ryans dislike of what he perceives is the 'Blues Culture'. A region that produces one third of our player base.
Serious question, do we have any proof that exclusions are a result of Ryan's personal issues? Or is it something that has been repeated so much it's become the 'truth'?
Whether its personality or he just doesn't rate them its still his personal issue with those players.
Agree, but it's obvious some people think it's some sort of conspiracy.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:
Why do people always say except Jason Ryan. That fat fucker is the one who wants to exclude Talented players from selection because of personal issues. The forwrds have gone backwards this year as well if you take out Fabien Holland (nothing to do with Ryan) adding some much needed size, power and workrate. Our Scrum and lineout have both been dismantled at various times this year and we constantly lack go forward in contact. Thanks to Ryan the best power runners in NZ rugby are lost to us with one likely to turn up in England colours before the next world cup and the only decent 7 in terms of workrate and the physical size required for test rugby looks to be going the same way. Our best impact lock will probably follow next year. The majority of that appears to be down to Ryans dislike of what he perceives is the 'Blues Culture'. A region that produces one third of our player base.
Serious question, do we have any proof that exclusions are a result of Ryan's personal issues? Or is it something that has been repeated so much it's become the 'truth'?
We saw Akira and Hoskins dropped in 2023 in the first full season of Ryan as forwards coach.
Then the following year we saw Papali'i dropped and ghosted too.
Whether its personality or he just doesn't rate them its still his personal issue with those players.
Slightly dramatic, unless you're privvy to dozens of missed calls/messages that we don't know about from DP asking why he isn't in the team......
Just so we're clear I'd select him in a heartbeat over other options we've had this year.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:
Why do people always say except Jason Ryan. That fat fucker is the one who wants to exclude Talented players from selection because of personal issues. The forwrds have gone backwards this year as well if you take out Fabien Holland (nothing to do with Ryan) adding some much needed size, power and workrate. Our Scrum and lineout have both been dismantled at various times this year and we constantly lack go forward in contact. Thanks to Ryan the best power runners in NZ rugby are lost to us with one likely to turn up in England colours before the next world cup and the only decent 7 in terms of workrate and the physical size required for test rugby looks to be going the same way. Our best impact lock will probably follow next year. The majority of that appears to be down to Ryans dislike of what he perceives is the 'Blues Culture'. A region that produces one third of our player base.
Serious question, do we have any proof that exclusions are a result of Ryan's personal issues? Or is it something that has been repeated so much it's become the 'truth'?
We saw Akira and Hoskins dropped in 2023 in the first full season of Ryan as forwards coach.
Then the following year we saw Papali'i dropped and ghosted too.
Whether its personality or he just doesn't rate them its still his personal issue with those players.
Slightly dramatic, unless you're privvy to dozens of missed calls/messages that we don't know about from DP asking why he isn't in the team......
Just so we're clear I'd select him in a heartbeat over other options we've had this year.
@Nogusta reported it here this time last year
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:
Why do people always say except Jason Ryan. That fat fucker is the one who wants to exclude Talented players from selection because of personal issues. The forwrds have gone backwards this year as well if you take out Fabien Holland (nothing to do with Ryan) adding some much needed size, power and workrate. Our Scrum and lineout have both been dismantled at various times this year and we constantly lack go forward in contact. Thanks to Ryan the best power runners in NZ rugby are lost to us with one likely to turn up in England colours before the next world cup and the only decent 7 in terms of workrate and the physical size required for test rugby looks to be going the same way. Our best impact lock will probably follow next year. The majority of that appears to be down to Ryans dislike of what he perceives is the 'Blues Culture'. A region that produces one third of our player base.
Serious question, do we have any proof that exclusions are a result of Ryan's personal issues? Or is it something that has been repeated so much it's become the 'truth'?
We saw Akira and Hoskins dropped in 2023 in the first full season of Ryan as forwards coach.
Then the following year we saw Papali'i dropped and ghosted too.
Whether its personality or he just doesn't rate them its still his personal issue with those players.
Slightly dramatic, unless you're privvy to dozens of missed calls/messages that we don't know about from DP asking why he isn't in the team......
Just so we're clear I'd select him in a heartbeat over other options we've had this year.
@Nogusta reported it here this time last year
Fair enough, I'll stand corrected if that's what happened !
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Robinsons publicist hanging Scott Hansen out to dry?
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:
Robinsons publicist hanging Scott Hansen out to dry?
Given how fawning the majority of the rugby media were over Razer I genuinely had no idea who who the article was going to be written by until I opened it.
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:
Robinsons publicist hanging Scott Hansen out to dry?
Idiots like Richard Knowler are to be ignored.
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:
Robinsons publicist hanging Scott Hansen out to dry?
Does raise a question for me though.
Who is Shand's replacement?
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Idiots like Richard Knowler are to be ignored.
And he isn't even the worst fluffer from the Press.
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:
Robinsons publicist hanging Scott Hansen out to dry?
Just confirming in or ert?
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Idiots like Richard Knowler are to be ignored.
And he isn't even the worst fluffer from the Press.
Who's the other idiot? Is it Van Rooyen?
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@African-Monkey Yes.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
In other words, they don't think he's good enough.
or maybe, just maybe, they are fixated on utility players because they don't want to have a large group of specialist players to select and train...
..but I don't know what they are thinking...
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
In other words, they don't think he's good enough.
or maybe, just maybe, they are fixated on utility players because they don't want to have a large group of specialist players to select and train...
..but I don't know what they are thinking...
Whatever it is, the thinking is flawed
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
Whatever it is, the thinking is flawed
When Sititi had his breakout season I thought ok, they're training someone to replace Ardie and move Ardie to 7 to replace Cane just don't know who their 6 is (perhaps it was initially supposed to be EB or Luke J).
But the loosies have gone backwards and I don't see what their plans are..
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Iose I think has all the talent to be an all black. Would love to see what he can do at that level
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
Any semi-astute observer (including all our opposition) will have latched onto this.
Once a group of directors get an idea into their head they've found a magic bean, it's hard for them to let go. Too much capital invested in the bean before they've bought it.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
That's a fascinating article - confirms a lot of what has been suspected.
Mainly that Mark Robinson has a lot to answer for. That simpleton has singlehandedly ruined NZ rugby.
Not just Mark Robinson. Scott Robertson knew exactly the snake-oil he was peddling to NZR - and amplified it by threatening to coach another country if he didn't get the gig.
Been prepared to support him as I've never believed all the problems were down to the head coach (unlike many), but if that article is right, he needs to go right now for deliberately misleading people..
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
That's a fascinating article - confirms a lot of what has been suspected.
Mainly that Mark Robinson has a lot to answer for. That simpleton has singlehandedly ruined NZ rugby.
Not just Mark Robinson. Scott Robertson knew exactly the snake-oil he was peddling to NZR - and amplified it by threatening to coach another country if he didn't get the gig.
Been prepared to support him as I've never believed all the problems were down to the head coach (unlike many), but if that article is right, he needs to go right now for deliberately misleading the NZ public.
He should have been allowed to fuck off.
Knowing him though, he probably would have stayed in his comfort zone at the Crusaders.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
That's a fascinating article - confirms a lot of what has been suspected.
Mainly that Mark Robinson has a lot to answer for. That simpleton has singlehandedly ruined NZ rugby.
Not just Mark Robinson. Scott Robertson knew exactly the snake-oil he was peddling to NZR - and amplified it by threatening to coach another country if he didn't get the gig.
Been prepared to support him as I've never believed all the problems were down to the head coach (unlike many), but if that article is right, he needs to go right now for deliberately misleading the NZ public.
He should have been allowed to fuck off.
This. No one should be bigger than the ABs
