All Blacks 2025
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
It all started with the comment from @Mr-Fish too. This is not a coincidence
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
It all started with the comment from @Mr-Fish too. This is not a coincidence
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
It all started with the comment from @Mr-Fish too. This is not a coincidence
Definitely went sour
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
It all started with the comment from @Mr-Fish too. This is not a coincidence
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Bit chippy tonite...
It all started with the comment from @Mr-Fish too. This is not a coincidence
I can see what your angling at..
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6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Careful, that's hate speech on here these days.
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6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Roigard (even in limited game time), Jordie or Holland for me.
Most of the rest were trash.
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@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Roigard (even in limited game time), Jordie or Holland for me.
Most of the rest were trash.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Roigard (even in limited game time), Jordie or Holland for me.
Most of the rest were trash.
Too quick to jump off the deep end bro. Taylor was excellent.
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Very mediocre season by the ABs to continue our slide into averageness. Some good individual efforts… CC, Codie, Holland, Roigard… Quin and LF (latterly), and who knows if Love would have been any good if he had chances earlier?
But the coaching set up is clearly out of their depth. There’s areas of our game that have looked great in spurts, but overall lack of vision, cohesion and a clear, effective game plan. The players look as confused and discombobulated as we feel as fans. I had hoped for more in season 2, but decidedly underwhelmed.
Let’s hope NZ Rugby has some balls and will walk back from their (in hindsight) bad call.
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The coaching set up needs some major surgery. NZR has to lay down the law and ring the changes. Razor either stays on board and plays the good team mate with the new team with someone else resetting selection and game plan or he leaves. I don't really care at this point
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@Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:
I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.
That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.
And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.
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@Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:
I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.
That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.
And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:
I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.
That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.
And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.
ALB? Christie? Reece? Clearly their definition of impact is different from mine....
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6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.
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@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.
Ardie Seagull it is then. At least he has the potential to swoop in at the last minute and steal all the chips.
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Negatives (these are going to be longer):
We got humped royally by the Boks.
We got humped royally by the Poms.
Argentina give us a bit of a kicking.
We weren't convincing once. Our best performance all year was Perth and was a 7/10.
We don't look like a side that will challenge at the next World Cup.
We didn't win the Rugby Chmapionship.
We didn't do the Grand Slam.
Our defence is appalling.
Our captain has minimal influence.
We've started an aging and poor First Five for most of the year.
We're terrible in the air.
Our attacking structure isn't great.
Our defensive structure is poor.
Our discipline is terrible.
Ardie Savea has become a one or two miracle plays a game player.
Cortes Ratima isn't up to it.
The Simon Parker experiment didn't work.
Nor did the Billy Proctor one.
We didn't develop a new First Five.
Ruben Love wasn't given enough gametime.
Our best 7, Dalton Papalii, has been out of the squad for most of the year.
We go missing for large parts of games.In a word, unsatisfactory.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Negatives (these are going to be longer):
We weren't convincing once. Our best performance all year was Perth and was a 7/10.
We've started an aging and poor First Five for most of the year.Ah Perth, where our midfield suddenly looked good for a week. Fuck knows what was different about that game eh.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:
I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.
That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.
And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.
ALB? Christie? Reece? Clearly their definition of impact is different from mine....
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:
I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.
That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.
And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.
ALB? Christie? Reece? Clearly their definition of impact is different from mine....
It is auite frustrating we haven't developed an understanding of using the bench as a means to lift tempo. Instead generally taking an old fashioned next man up. What if someone gets injured apporach.
It is nuts that we are picking guys like Reece, ALB, Christie etc as bench players. They are starters and starters only.
I'm really keen to see Super teams and the ABs take an approach to benches that it is about finiding a best fit to make a 30 minute difference.
Fakatava around the rucks, quick powerful loosies, potentially shorter locks who can act as a fourth loosie, nippy and explosive outside backs.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
No TSF thread is safe from pedantry
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Touche
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.
Ardie Seagull it is then. At least he has the potential to swoop in at the last minute and steal all the chips.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.
Ardie Seagull it is then. At least he has the potential to swoop in at the last minute and steal all the chips.
I'll go with that.
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@rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:
6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced
Roigard (even in limited game time), Jordie or Holland for me.
Most of the rest were trash.
