All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Our defence is shit; season stats, of all our tackles this season, 5% were dominant contact (5!), 35% were ineffective contact, 60% neutral contact (FUCK ME)
Every segment ever of Smash Em Bro to be compulsory watching for every All Black of the summer.
A few sessions with James Fisher Harris might be in order
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@canefan Bringing back Dalton Papalii would help with those dominant tackle stats next year.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan Bringing back Dalton Papalii would help with those dominant tackle stats next year.
Might need some serious fence mending if the rumours are to be believed
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
One thing has become crystal clear in the last few days to me......
Razor was a massive beneficiary of being involved in a perennially successful club environment in Canterbury and the Crusaders. His coaching bona fides were inflated because of that.
If he had coached outside of Christchurch where he had had to build something from scratch or had had no cattle or tradition to work with I can only assume that his flaws would have come to the fore earlier.
The key takeaway on this for the NZR has to the that the recruitment process for an All Black head coach has to be extensive and thorough and they should be looking for a candidate with proven success in a variety of different environments. Being wildly successful in Christchurch is obviously still an achievement but replicating that elsewhere or at least showing the ability to achieve something outside of that domain would have proven Razors qualities.
Warren Gatland, then?
This is a stick that gets poked at Razor, but I'm not convinced that it fully stands up to scrutiny.
Now, there's no doubt that lots of alternative experiences are beneficial to an extent, but I'm far from convinced that coaching some international bunny team is the be all and end all for selecting an All Black coach - and sadly, for Warren, he's my exhibit A.
You couldn't get a more hyper-experienced coach than Warren - and yet, he came back to the Chiefs (presumably with an eye on the AB's position) and lost 0-8 in Super Rugby Aotearoa. How could this happen?
Exhibit B is going to be Stern Vern. Loads of international experience, had the Super rugby champions stacked with All Blacks and (as I'm led to believe
) a bunch of others who should be but for Razor's bias. They lost 9 games this year and lucky to sneak into the play-offs. Where they got beaten by Rob Penney's Crusaders (another experienced international coach who couldn't arrest a disaster last year).Then we've got Jamie Joseph. And John Kirwan. Eddie Jones.
I think it's far from conclusive.
I have some other somewhat harsh thoughts to post on Razor's season subsequently, so those who want to rush to label me an apologist can go fuck themselves.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
I have some other somewhat harsh thoughts to post on Razor's season subsequently, so those who want to rush to label me an apologist can go fuck themselves.
Subsequent to what? Some of us are still awaiting this dollop of measured vitriol!
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Reflecting on Holland, he's had an outstanding season. The kid is no frills, rolls his sleeves up and gets stuck in. We need more players like that, especially in the back row
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Reflecting on Holland, he's had an outstanding season. The kid is no frills, rolls his sleeves up and gets stuck in. We need more players like that, especially in the back row
I feel like he's got more to give too. I hope Jamie Joseph can turn him into a real bruiser because he certainly has the frame for it.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Reflecting on Holland, he's had an outstanding season. The kid is no frills, rolls his sleeves up and gets stuck in. We need more players like that, especially in the back row
I feel like he's got more to give too. I hope Jamie Joseph can turn him into a real bruiser because he certainly has the frame for it.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Reflecting on Holland, he's had an outstanding season. The kid is no frills, rolls his sleeves up and gets stuck in. We need more players like that, especially in the back row
I feel like he's got more to give too. I hope Jamie Joseph can turn him into a real bruiser because he certainly has the frame for it.
I suspect Joseph is looking forward to it!
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Reflecting on Holland, he's had an outstanding season. The kid is no frills, rolls his sleeves up and gets stuck in. We need more players like that, especially in the back row
I feel like he's got more to give too. I hope Jamie Joseph can turn him into a real bruiser because he certainly has the frame for it.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Reflecting on Holland, he's had an outstanding season. The kid is no frills, rolls his sleeves up and gets stuck in. We need more players like that, especially in the back row
I feel like he's got more to give too. I hope Jamie Joseph can turn him into a real bruiser because he certainly has the frame for it.
Oh yeah. Barring injury, his ceiling is high. I have a feeling Beehre is another bruiser, we need more players with attributes like Holland
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Ardie doesn't make the Breakdown world XV. Beaver says he picked him, Mils says he tried to pick him but ultimately didn't, Goldie says fuck that PSDT is the best 7, doesn't take a minute off, impactful, plays exactly the way a 7 should. Good on ya mate
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Ardie doesn't make the Breakdown world XV. Beaver says he picked him, Mils says he tried to pick him but ultimately didn't, Goldie says fuck that PSDT is the best 7, doesn't take a minute off, impactful, plays exactly the way a 7 should. Good on ya mate
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Ardie doesn't make the Breakdown world XV. Beaver says he picked him, Mils says he tried to pick him but ultimately didn't, Goldie says fuck that PSDT is the best 7, doesn't take a minute off, impactful, plays exactly the way a 7 should. Good on ya mate
PSDT is a blindside Goldie
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Ardie doesn't make the Breakdown world XV. Beaver says he picked him, Mils says he tried to pick him but ultimately didn't, Goldie says fuck that PSDT is the best 7, doesn't take a minute off, impactful, plays exactly the way a 7 should. Good on ya mate
PSDT is a blindside Goldie
@Frank said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Ardie doesn't make the Breakdown world XV. Beaver says he picked him, Mils says he tried to pick him but ultimately didn't, Goldie says fuck that PSDT is the best 7, doesn't take a minute off, impactful, plays exactly the way a 7 should. Good on ya mate
PSDT is a blindside Goldie
He'll play anywhere you need him to play. And dominate
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Mils tried very hard not to say Mark Robinson's tenure was shit. Goldie being very diplomatic, they all agree commercialism has been at the expense of on field performance.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Ardie doesn't make the Breakdown world XV. Beaver says he picked him, Mils says he tried to pick him but ultimately didn't, Goldie says fuck that PSDT is the best 7, doesn't take a minute off, impactful, plays exactly the way a 7 should. Good on ya mate
PSDT is a blindside Goldie
He'll play anywhere you need him to play. And dominate
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
It would be fun to look back at some of the posts from 2023 - 2024 talking about how he would turn things around straight away
There was that loon who wrote long, gushing posts on how unique and wonderful Robertson was, wasn't there? Wanted Foster replaced before the knock-out stages of RWC2023 IIRC.
He quit in embarrassment then came back with a different account. Still thinks that every Blues player should be dropped. Real moron.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
It would be fun to look back at some of the posts from 2023 - 2024 talking about how he would turn things around straight away
There was that loon who wrote long, gushing posts on how unique and wonderful Robertson was, wasn't there? Wanted Foster replaced before the knock-out stages of RWC2023 IIRC.
He quit in embarrassment then came back with a different account. Still thinks that every Blues player should be dropped. Real moron.
I’d keep Christie at least
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
He'll play anywhere you need him to play. And dominate
Saffas usually have what we call a 7 in the No. 6. But, yeah, he's a 6/7.
@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
He'll play anywhere you need him to play. And dominate
Saffas usually have what we call a 7 in the No. 6. But, yeah, he's a 6/7.
Yeah PSDT has played on both sides.
PSDT, Matera and Earl are my trio.
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@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
He'll play anywhere you need him to play. And dominate
Saffas usually have what we call a 7 in the No. 6. But, yeah, he's a 6/7.
Yeah PSDT has played on both sides.
PSDT, Matera and Earl are my trio.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
He'll play anywhere you need him to play. And dominate
Saffas usually have what we call a 7 in the No. 6. But, yeah, he's a 6/7.
Yeah PSDT has played on both sides.
PSDT, Matera and Earl are my trio.
Don't think PSDT has ever started a game on the openside?
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from a Richard Knowler article onn stuff
"Last year Robertson retained veterans such as Sam Cane and TJ Peranara to provide experience but, with both now playing in Japan, had to go deeper into the playing pool this season."Oh my. The only issue we have is we can't play TJP and Cane this year!?
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We've turned the corner apparently and all is well.
And international experience is suddenly important now, according to Robertson. Pity he and his loonie fluffers did't mention that when campaigning for AB Coach eh?
Last year Robertson retained veterans such as Sam Cane and TJ Peranara to provide experience but, with both now playing in Japan, had to go deeper into the playing pool this season.
"Until you have played or coached a test match, you don't know [what is required] until you have done it and so those guys are really valuable," Robertson said.
