All Blacks 2026
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2026:
I sense Cotter would be make shift through to the World Cup only if they did appoint him. Not saying that’s a bad thing either
Honestly, the more i think about it the more i think Cotter is the ideal short term (2026 & 27) appointment.
Seems like a hard nose, no bullshit bloke who will get buy in and be able to shore things up. He's been around the block, knows international rugby, been in some tough coaching situations before.
He's not a sexy pick but he might be the right guy for this time and place.
See now you making it hard lol. Although I hadn't had Cotter in my thoughts, I agree, I would be happy with him too. So now I have to admit to being happy with any of Cotter, Joseph or Rennie.
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Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
Hansen is in charge of the tactics and attacking structure. Fail.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
Hansen is in charge of the tactics and attacking structure. Fail.
Yeah,.if Razor is gone i don't see how anyone else keeps their job based on merit, with the possible, possible exception of Jason Ryan..
Regardless, it feels like this is the opportune moment to clean house and start from scratch. Why carry anything over from the razor era when you can just start over with no baggage?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
Well Hansen was one of Joseph's assistants with Japan.
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It doesn't seem to me like NZR are going for a fast appointment. We might not have a new Head Coach in place until May or June.
Meanwhile, someone needs to keep an eye on the players and do mid-season 1-2-1s. My guess is that is why Hansen and Ryan are still in post.
But a new Head Coach will be free to appoint their own assistants and will probably do so.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
Hansen is in charge of the tactics and attacking structure. Fail.
Yep I would agree, if it actually right. See I also read that Holland was attack too, I can't see how an assistant coach could be in charge of tactics, and if he was perhaps he should just do what he is good at? Still think there were too many coaches with those jobs and perhaps just streamlining them is the answer.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
It doesn't seem to me like NZR are going for a fast appointment. We might not have a new Head Coach in place until May or June.
Meanwhile, someone needs to keep an eye on the players and do mid-season 1-2-1s. My guess is that is why Hansen and Ryan are still in post.
But a new Head Coach will be free to appoint their own assistants and will probably do so.
I see your point. Way better to be thorough and diligent in the hiring process.
Theres only one massive stumbling block with that - how is someone appointed that late going to be able to prep and be ready for an 8 match tour of SA? The logistics alone strike me as being a big challenge. It's very last minute.
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I guess it comes back to what the reviews said about Hansen as to whether he is able to be retained, similarly Ryan, whos body of work is mixed, good under Foz/Scmidt, poor under Razor.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
You'd hope the new HC would have some input into the decision.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
It doesn't seem to me like NZR are going for a fast appointment. We might not have a new Head Coach in place until May or June.
Meanwhile, someone needs to keep an eye on the players and do mid-season 1-2-1s. My guess is that is why Hansen and Ryan are still in post.
But a new Head Coach will be free to appoint their own assistants and will probably do so.
I see your point. Way better to be thorough and diligent in the hiring process.
Theres only one massive stumbling block with that - how is someone appointed that late going to be able to prep and be ready for an 8 match tour of SA? The logistics alone strike me as being a big challenge. It's very last minute.
Imagine logistics is managed by a dedicated team.
Actually think a tough year could be a positive. Less pressure for the new coach after the Coach Jesus fiasco and the players will have something to prove.
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@nonpartizan The SA tour is going to be an enormous challenge for any new Head Coach, but I'd rather have a world-class coach we have to wait a bit for, than a rushed and substandard appointment.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
Lol if that's the case, they may as well have bloody kept Razor!
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
It doesn't seem to me like NZR are going for a fast appointment. We might not have a new Head Coach in place until May or June.
Meanwhile, someone needs to keep an eye on the players and do mid-season 1-2-1s. My guess is that is why Hansen and Ryan are still in post.
But a new Head Coach will be free to appoint their own assistants and will probably do so.
I see your point. Way better to be thorough and diligent in the hiring process.
Theres only one massive stumbling block with that - how is someone appointed that late going to be able to prep and be ready for an 8 match tour of SA? The logistics alone strike me as being a big challenge. It's very last minute.
Also if they are at this point Super rugby coaches do they continue with that role as well? would be very disruptive to their franchises and themselves.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
Imagine logistics is managed by a dedicated team.
There is a logistics manager (James Iversen). Usually for tours the coach, manager and a few other staff will make an advance trip to check out options for training facilities, accommodation, etc.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
has hansen thrown razor under the bus to save himself, " i was only doing all the coaching because razor wasnt and someone had to try!"
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Looking for a no-nonsense hard-nosed coach who can turn the forward pack into some ruthless swines?
Won’t wear out his welcome because he’s only gonna be in the job 18-months before Tony and JJ take the mantle?
International, club and NH experience. Highly motivated due to being unfairly moved on by one of the ABs biggest rivals?
You know who it is.
And oh yeah, he won a World Cup.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
Actually think a tough year could be a positive. Less pressure for the new coach after the Coach Jesus fiasco and the players will have something to prove.
It'll harden the players for everything to come after too, making them hungry and determined to prove something. An easy year could leave them comfortable, with a lack of edge.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
has hansen thrown razor under the bus to save himself, " i was only doing all the coaching because razor wasnt and someone had to try!"
That won’t wash if he’s actively contributed to a toxic culture/losing the confidence of the playing group.
