All Blacks 2026
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I guess it comes back to what the reviews said about Hansen as to whether he is able to be retained, similarly Ryan, whos body of work is mixed, good under Foz/Scmidt, poor under Razor.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
You'd hope the new HC would have some input into the decision.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
It doesn't seem to me like NZR are going for a fast appointment. We might not have a new Head Coach in place until May or June.
Meanwhile, someone needs to keep an eye on the players and do mid-season 1-2-1s. My guess is that is why Hansen and Ryan are still in post.
But a new Head Coach will be free to appoint their own assistants and will probably do so.
I see your point. Way better to be thorough and diligent in the hiring process.
Theres only one massive stumbling block with that - how is someone appointed that late going to be able to prep and be ready for an 8 match tour of SA? The logistics alone strike me as being a big challenge. It's very last minute.
Imagine logistics is managed by a dedicated team.
Actually think a tough year could be a positive. Less pressure for the new coach after the Coach Jesus fiasco and the players will have something to prove.
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@nonpartizan The SA tour is going to be an enormous challenge for any new Head Coach, but I'd rather have a world-class coach we have to wait a bit for, than a rushed and substandard appointment.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
Lol if that's the case, they may as well have bloody kept Razor!
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
It doesn't seem to me like NZR are going for a fast appointment. We might not have a new Head Coach in place until May or June.
Meanwhile, someone needs to keep an eye on the players and do mid-season 1-2-1s. My guess is that is why Hansen and Ryan are still in post.
But a new Head Coach will be free to appoint their own assistants and will probably do so.
I see your point. Way better to be thorough and diligent in the hiring process.
Theres only one massive stumbling block with that - how is someone appointed that late going to be able to prep and be ready for an 8 match tour of SA? The logistics alone strike me as being a big challenge. It's very last minute.
Also if they are at this point Super rugby coaches do they continue with that role as well? would be very disruptive to their franchises and themselves.
Surely the coaching team is named before super rugby unless they are coming from outside NZ -
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
Imagine logistics is managed by a dedicated team.
There is a logistics manager (James Iversen). Usually for tours the coach, manager and a few other staff will make an advance trip to check out options for training facilities, accommodation, etc.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
has hansen thrown razor under the bus to save himself, " i was only doing all the coaching because razor wasnt and someone had to try!"
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Looking for a no-nonsense hard-nosed coach who can turn the forward pack into some ruthless swines?
Won’t wear out his welcome because he’s only gonna be in the job 18-months before Tony and JJ take the mantle?
International, club and NH experience. Highly motivated due to being unfairly moved on by one of the ABs biggest rivals?
You know who it is.
And oh yeah, he won a World Cup.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
Actually think a tough year could be a positive. Less pressure for the new coach after the Coach Jesus fiasco and the players will have something to prove.
It'll harden the players for everything to come after too, making them hungry and determined to prove something. An easy year could leave them comfortable, with a lack of edge.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
has hansen thrown razor under the bus to save himself, " i was only doing all the coaching because razor wasnt and someone had to try!"
That won’t wash if he’s actively contributed to a toxic culture/losing the confidence of the playing group.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
has hansen thrown razor under the bus to save himself, " i was only doing all the coaching because razor wasnt and someone had to try!"
Should def. be judged on his coaching ability but one of the rumours was Hansen was taking players' concerns to Robertson, but they ended up in a black hole. It true, seems to indicate he was at least trying to sort things out and doing his best, but we'll never know.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
You'd hope the new HC would have some input into the decision.
His point being is JJ worked with Hansen in Japan.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
Theres only one massive stumbling block with that - how is someone appointed that late going to be able to prep and be ready for an 8 match tour of SA? The logistics alone strike me as being a big challenge. It's very last minute.
I think they should drop some matches. Very worried about injuries this close to an RWC.
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Tony Brown was reported in an online article about being very frustrated with NZR two years ago, that nobody talked to him.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360928024/springboks-assistant-tony-brown-reveals-axed-all-blacks-coach-razor-approached-him-months-ago -
@game_film said in All Blacks 2026:
Looking for a no-nonsense hard-nosed coach who can turn the forward pack into some ruthless swines?
Won’t wear out his welcome because he’s only gonna be in the job 18-months before Tony and JJ take the mantle?
International, club and NH experience. Highly motivated due to being unfairly moved on by one of the ABs biggest rivals?
You know who it is.
And oh yeah, he won a World Cup.
I don't want Eddie Jones
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
has hansen thrown razor under the bus to save himself, " i was only doing all the coaching because razor wasnt and someone had to try!"
Kirk said the trajectory wasn't good enough.
Razor said Hansen did the coaching.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Devlin saying he's heard that Hansen could stay, if this is the case, maybe he wasnt part of the problem in the reviews?
You'd hope the new HC would have some input into the decision.
His point being is JJ worked with Hansen in Japan.
Well I just couldn't listen to more than 5 minutes of that voice.
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@nostrildamus too be clear, im not suggesting he shouldnt...just speculating what he might have said to keep his job
the only other thing i could possibly understand is waiting for a new HC to decide who he wants so they dont have to pay them out only to rehire them
