All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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Kirst & Beav had an interesting new pod, from which it seems very clear that Beav really rates Rennie. Some interesting stuff in there discussing who has worked with who before and mainly talking up Joseph including with domehead on his team.
One small comment from Beav on Rennie was interesting, he said something along the lines of that the people he pissed off st NZRU while he was the chiefs coach gave all moved on… not sure what that is about.
For what it is worth, Kirst seemed to think Joseph has been shoulder tapped.
Edit: they did discuss Shag or Foster taking on a caretaker role. It would be interesting to see whether any candidate could get one of them with them for 18 months as the board may really appreciate such experience.
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D Duluth referenced this topic
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@kidcalder see im not sure that works, if whoever is in the role that Brown would be in, is successful, why then do they get pushed aside?
Timing is a big part of these things, now is wrong for TB, but might be perfect for someone else to take and succeed
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@canefan said in All Blacks - new coach selection:
@sparky said in All Blacks - new coach selection:
So it will be a New Zealand coach with International Head Coaching experience.
That narrows the field down considerably
There's at least 6 or so? But how many have expressed interest...
I do wonder if the emergency time frame is why it has to be a NZer, or if they still only want 'local' talent to apply on principle.
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Relevant to the process and who is selected.
JJ and Cotter are both forwards coaches.
Rennie is a backs coach.I'd like all three involved somehow.
Kendrick Lynn helps run the very impressive Pumas attack and is based in Queenstown working remotely. He might be in the frame.
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I'd say JJ has been shoulder tapped, not to be offered the job, but to make sure he knows they are looking at him very seriously so that he applies, and I'd say they shoulder tapped a few others in the same way. They will already have firm favourites but will want as many names in the hat as possible. I have been so impressed with Kirk so far, God it's good to have someone in charge that knows what they are doing again.
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@Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Relevant to the process and who is selected.
JJ and Cotter are both forwards coaches.
Rennie is a backs coach.I'd like all three involved somehow.
Kendrick Lynn helps run the very impressive Pumas attack and is based in Queenstown working remotely. He might be in the frame.
He would be a great candidate, not that well known here but plenty of overseas experience, and he would be a poach from the South sea island of Tokoroa.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@kidcalder see im not sure that works, if whoever is in the role that Brown would be in, is successful, why then do they get pushed aside?
Timing is a big part of these things, now is wrong for TB, but might be perfect for someone else to take and succeed
If they are successful and want to carry on address it then but fix what's in front of us first
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@kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.
Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.
Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?
All they can say is there will be a performance based review at the end of their two year contract. Make no promises, tell no lies
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@canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@sparky said in All Blacks - new coach selection:
So it will be a New Zealand coach with International Head Coaching experience.
That narrows the field down considerably
Realistically, I don't think it narrows field down at all really.
Who are ever going to stand anyway. JJ,Rennie , and Cotter? that's as many as ever really interviewed for the job. -
@canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.
Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?
All they can say is there will be a performance based review at the end of their two year contract. Make no promises, tell no lies
Which is how it should be anyway, high performance role needs to have appropriate kpis and review clauses.
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@canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.
Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?
All they can say is there will be a performance based review at the end of their two year contract. Make no promises, tell no lies
Which should have been (if it wasn't) for razor or is that how they got out of paying him out full term?
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