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    I'd say JJ has been shoulder tapped, not to be offered the job, but to make sure he knows they are looking at him very seriously so that he applies, and I'd say they shoulder tapped a few others in the same way. They will already have firm favourites but will want as many names in the hat as possible. I have been so impressed with Kirk so far, God it's good to have someone in charge that knows what they are doing again.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Relevant to the process and who is selected.
    JJ and Cotter are both forwards coaches.
    Rennie is a backs coach.

    I'd like all three involved somehow.

    Kendrick Lynn helps run the very impressive Pumas attack and is based in Queenstown working remotely. He might be in the frame.

    He would be a great candidate, not that well known here but plenty of overseas experience, and he would be a poach from the South sea island of Tokoroa.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @kidcalder see im not sure that works, if whoever is in the role that Brown would be in, is successful, why then do they get pushed aside?

    Timing is a big part of these things, now is wrong for TB, but might be perfect for someone else to take and succeed

    If they are successful and want to carry on address it then but fix what's in front of us first

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    Lynn would have played under Joseph at the Highlanders

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    @kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.

    Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.

    Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?

    All they can say is there will be a performance based review at the end of their two year contract. Make no promises, tell no lies

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    @canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @sparky said in All Blacks - new coach selection:

    So it will be a New Zealand coach with International Head Coaching experience.

    That narrows the field down considerably

    Realistically, I don't think it narrows field down at all really.
    Who are ever going to stand anyway. JJ,Rennie , and Cotter? that's as many as ever really interviewed for the job.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.

    Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?

    All they can say is there will be a performance based review at the end of their two year contract. Make no promises, tell no lies

    Which is how it should be anyway, high performance role needs to have appropriate kpis and review clauses.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @kidcalder point is, they cant hire people now with an eye on someone else in 2 years, they need to be fully committed to whoever they appoint now, with a view to retaining them for as long as required.

    Dont expect many would apply if they knew that they were only keeping someone else's seat warm?

    All they can say is there will be a performance based review at the end of their two year contract. Make no promises, tell no lies

    Which should have been (if it wasn't) for razor or is that how they got out of paying him out full term?

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    So hearing Rennie is out .

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    @george33 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    So hearing Rennie is out .

    Do you know why?

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    @george33 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    So hearing Rennie is out .

    No offence George, but you were absolutely sure Tony Brown would join Joseph.

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    @allblackfan2 think he's put pen to paper for different contract.
    That's my mail maybe R36O moving forward.

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    @Frank think we all were . Turned it down same as Schmidt. Running out of options.
    Steve Lancaster spoke this afternoon and mentioned Super coaches Joseph and Cotter , that if it worked out that they have other systems in place .

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    Would love to see Joseph and Cotter combined. That's a lot of old school!!!!
    But they'd still need a backs coach.

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    Think Cotter a big maybe not tho , so it's probably Joseph and have heard Tyler Blendyls name mentioned also assistant.
    Sorry about his name presentation

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    Shame if Rennie unavailable I saw him as the steady influence with great experience.

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    @kidcalder said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Shame if Rennie unavailable I saw him as the steady influence with great experience.

    If he could work with either Cotter or Josepj, it would make for a very very good team.

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    Timing of it all sucks, hangover from Robinson where people cant trust NZR?

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Timing of it all sucks, hangover from Robinson where people cant trust NZR?

    Personally, I think they already have their person and this call for applications is a bad idea, it stinks of Robinson dress-up process when the decision is made.

    However, if they really are opening it up and Joseph isn't the person who has been tapped on the shoulder, it really speaks to how toxic they think the environment had become. They would have had no idea that they'll be able to replace what we had with any real quality, which essentially means they think that anything would be better.

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