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All Blacks - New Coach Selection

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360938915/nz-rugbys-search-all-blacks-coach-and-chief-executive-continues-other-top-brass-appointed

    NZ Rugby announced on Monday that Chris Kinraid and Chris Brown have been appointed as NZ Rugby’s CFO and CCO, respectively.

    Kirk's doing a fabulous job.

    If you need a job done properly, hire a Chris to do it! 🙂

    As usual, I can neither confirm nor deny that I am the new CCO for NZ Rugby - or the Performance Coach at Munster..

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @antipodean yeah we have the structure of a really good side, but we lacked the gameplan and leadership to change things when it wasnt working (this may or may not be a reflection on SB) but then what do you revert to if the game plan and/or style isnt very clear?

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

      @antipodean yeah we have the structure of a really good side, but we lacked the gameplan and leadership to change things when it wasnt working (this may or may not be a reflection on SB) but then what do you revert to if the game plan and/or style isnt very clear?

      Our 10 was expected to do far too much, and it made them all look poor at times. And all that ball playing behind the advantage line was turgid. Time to revert back to KISS, keep it simple stupid

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360938915/nz-rugbys-search-all-blacks-coach-and-chief-executive-continues-other-top-brass-appointed

        NZ Rugby announced on Monday that Chris Kinraid and Chris Brown have been appointed as NZ Rugby’s CFO and CCO, respectively.

        Kirk's doing a fabulous job.

        If you need a job done properly, hire a Chris to do it! 🙂

        As usual, I can neither confirm nor deny that I am the new CCO for NZ Rugby - or the Performance Coach at Munster..

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        @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360938915/nz-rugbys-search-all-blacks-coach-and-chief-executive-continues-other-top-brass-appointed

        NZ Rugby announced on Monday that Chris Kinraid and Chris Brown have been appointed as NZ Rugby’s CFO and CCO, respectively.

        Kirk's doing a fabulous job.

        If you need a job done properly, hire a Chris to do it! 🙂

        As usual, I can neither confirm nor deny that I am the new CCO for NZ Rugby - or the Performance Coach at Munster..

        Well your handle isn't Chris K.... 🤔

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360938915/nz-rugbys-search-all-blacks-coach-and-chief-executive-continues-other-top-brass-appointed

          NZ Rugby announced on Monday that Chris Kinraid and Chris Brown have been appointed as NZ Rugby’s CFO and CCO, respectively.

          Kirk's doing a fabulous job.

          If you need a job done properly, hire a Chris to do it! 🙂

          As usual, I can neither confirm nor deny that I am the new CCO for NZ Rugby - or the Performance Coach at Munster..

          Well your handle isn't Chris K.... 🤔

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          @canefan Yes - I am not the CFO.

          Nor am I the Prime Minister or his predecessor.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360938915/nz-rugbys-search-all-blacks-coach-and-chief-executive-continues-other-top-brass-appointed

            NZ Rugby announced on Monday that Chris Kinraid and Chris Brown have been appointed as NZ Rugby’s CFO and CCO, respectively.

            Kirk's doing a fabulous job.

            If you need a job done properly, hire a Chris to do it! 🙂

            As usual, I can neither confirm nor deny that I am the new CCO for NZ Rugby - or the Performance Coach at Munster..

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            @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            David Kirk's doing a fabulous job.

            If you need a job done properly, hire a ChrisDavid to do it! 🙂

            Corrected for consistency.

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              @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

              we talking about the coach still?

              Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

              Nah, I was talking about the players here.

              People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

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              @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

              we talking about the coach still?

              Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

              Nah, I was talking about the players here.

              People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

              You mean the guys who should've been in the 23 based on last couple of year's Super?

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                @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

                we talking about the coach still?

                Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

                Nah, I was talking about the players here.

                People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

                You mean the guys who should've been in the 23 based on last couple of year's Super?

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                @reprobate said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

                we talking about the coach still?

                Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

                Nah, I was talking about the players here.

                People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

                You mean the guys who should've been in the 23 based on last couple of year's Super?

                This is just rehashing shit from last year, which is my point.

                McKenzie will obviously perform, and will likely battle Mo’unga. I’d like to see Love actually offer up some performances at 10 before we start putting him in the same conversations.

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                • F frugby

                  @reprobate said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

                  we talking about the coach still?

                  Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

                  Nah, I was talking about the players here.

                  People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

                  You mean the guys who should've been in the 23 based on last couple of year's Super?

                  This is just rehashing shit from last year, which is my point.

                  McKenzie will obviously perform, and will likely battle Mo’unga. I’d like to see Love actually offer up some performances at 10 before we start putting him in the same conversations.

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                  @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @reprobate said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

                  we talking about the coach still?

                  Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

                  Nah, I was talking about the players here.

                  People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

                  You mean the guys who should've been in the 23 based on last couple of year's Super?

                  This is just rehashing shit from last year, which is my point.

                  McKenzie will obviously perform, and will likely battle Mo’unga. I’d like to see Love actually offer up some performances at 10 before we start putting him in the same conversations.

                  See I think Love has already shown enough to be an option in the 23. He hasn't shown near enough yet to supplant McKenzie as the starting 10 - but this is a guy who is consistently very good at fullback, he grew up playing 10, and he played several games in a row there last year in which he looked immediately comfortable. I think that's enough to make the bench over a guy who is about to turn 35.

                  Yes it is rehashing last year, and selection should be based on what happens this year. But none of them have actually played yet this year, so we don't have a lot to discuss on that front.

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                  • F frugby

                    @reprobate said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    Here’s an idea. Why don’t we wait to see who performs well in Super and deserves selection?

                    we talking about the coach still?

                    Jokes aside, Super isn't Test. Similar, but success no longer necessarily transfers - they have quite different requirements.

                    Nah, I was talking about the players here.

                    People calling for Ruben Love and DMac to do X and Y.

                    You mean the guys who should've been in the 23 based on last couple of year's Super?

                    This is just rehashing shit from last year, which is my point.

                    McKenzie will obviously perform, and will likely battle Mo’unga. I’d like to see Love actually offer up some performances at 10 before we start putting him in the same conversations.

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                    @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                    I’d like to see Love actually offer up some performances at 10

                    I saw him live in Hamilton vs France. He looked bloody impressive and I was surprised he didn't get more game time.

                    Super is one thing, but you'd hope players who perform at training an on the field in Tests get rewarded. He passed my 'eye' test for sure.

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                      Love should be an experienced test player by now- who we know could step up and into the 10 jersey and bring confidence that he will perform... Unfortunately, we really don't know due to poor player management by the previous coaching team - a confusing lack of chances for him stalled his development - and getting him a test cap to his name by coming on a couple of times on the wing with 2min doesn't help anyone.
                      They way he was treated was very strange hopefully he gets opportunities this time round so he can gauged fairly

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                      • K kidcalder

                        Love should be an experienced test player by now- who we know could step up and into the 10 jersey and bring confidence that he will perform... Unfortunately, we really don't know due to poor player management by the previous coaching team - a confusing lack of chances for him stalled his development - and getting him a test cap to his name by coming on a couple of times on the wing with 2min doesn't help anyone.
                        They way he was treated was very strange hopefully he gets opportunities this time round so he can gauged fairly

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                        @kidcalder said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                        They way he was treated was very strange hopefully he gets opportunities this time round so he can gauged fairly

                        reckon there's a list of those players right now.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @kidcalder said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          They way he was treated was very strange hopefully he gets opportunities this time round so he can gauged fairly

                          reckon there's a list of those players right now.

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                          @nzzp said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          @kidcalder said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          They way he was treated was very strange hopefully he gets opportunities this time round so he can gauged fairly

                          reckon there's a list of those players right now.

                          Harry Plummer says hi

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                            Love should be an experienced test player by now- who we know could step up and into the 10 jersey and bring confidence that he will perform... Unfortunately, we really don't know due to poor player management by the previous coaching team - a confusing lack of chances for him stalled his development - and getting him a test cap to his name by coming on a couple of times on the wing with 2min doesn't help anyone.
                            They way he was treated was very strange hopefully he gets opportunities this time round so he can gauged fairly

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                            @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

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                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                              @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

                              Hansen is still technically an AB assistant coach, isn't he?

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

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                                @No-Quarter
                                Yeah did hear that... sounds childish for that level. We need to develop world class players not blacklist those that ask questions and challenge direction. Shows weakness in the coach.

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                  @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

                                  Hansen is still technically an AB assistant coach, isn't he?

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                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                  @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

                                  Hansen is still technically an AB assistant coach, isn't he?

                                  Only an assistant though. He’s no longer the head coach.

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                                    IMG_5210.jpeg

                                    Devlin going against the grain

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                                    @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                    IMG_5210.jpeg

                                    Devlin going against the grain

                                    This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

                                    Starting to think I won’t post everything I hear as it’s just gone willy nilly. Eg throw enough shit at a wall and it’ll stick eventually.

                                    What do they gain by waiting until March? I have no idea other than the Japan season may be over so could suit a Rennie announcement?

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                                      They could have made their choice but still be negotiating and sorting out contracts. They might want to do some internal communication first. Maybe they’re just giving themselves a couple of weeks to make sure everything’s in place before making an official announcement.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                        @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

                                        Hansen is still technically an AB assistant coach, isn't he?

                                        Only an assistant though. He’s no longer the head coach.

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                                        @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                        Only an assistant though. He’s no longer the head coach.

                                        Ha ha! We shall see!

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                                          @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          IMG_5210.jpeg

                                          Devlin going against the grain

                                          This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

                                          Starting to think I won’t post everything I hear as it’s just gone willy nilly. Eg throw enough shit at a wall and it’ll stick eventually.

                                          What do they gain by waiting until March? I have no idea other than the Japan season may be over so could suit a Rennie announcement?

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                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          IMG_5210.jpeg

                                          Devlin going against the grain

                                          .

                                          What do they gain by waiting until March?

                                          Mid-March (March 14th) is when the Six Nations ends. 😉

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