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  • UncoU Offline
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    NZ gets its first (interim) UFC champion, outlasting and outsmarting Yoel Romero, even though Yoel fucked his knee up in the first round. Yoel has no stamina, looked like a zombie by the fourth round. Pity Whittaker's a Russell Crowe NZer, even has a f'n Aussie flag tattoo... Both fighters would've crushed Bisping, though at least he's pretty funny.

    Awesome card, except for the second fight on the main card which was a bit of a bathroom break. Disappointed Werdum fucked up and took Overeem down right after breaking Reem's glass jaw, he would've won if he'd just stayed on his feet.

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    • DuluthD Offline
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      #290

      Great fight from Whittaker. Scrambled well early, took some hard shots, worked through an injury and then clearly won the last 3 rounds

      I like Bisping but I can't see him competing with Whittaker for the real belt

      Bisping adding some bullshit WWE hype:

      https://twitter.com/ufc/status/883916107655954432

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      • UncoU Unco

        NZ gets its first (interim) UFC champion, outlasting and outsmarting Yoel Romero, even though Yoel fucked his knee up in the first round. Yoel has no stamina, looked like a zombie by the fourth round. Pity Whittaker's a Russell Crowe NZer, even has a f'n Aussie flag tattoo... Both fighters would've crushed Bisping, though at least he's pretty funny.

        Awesome card, except for the second fight on the main card which was a bit of a bathroom break. Disappointed Werdum fucked up and took Overeem down right after breaking Reem's glass jaw, he would've won if he'd just stayed on his feet.

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        #291

        @Unco said in UFC:

        NZ gets its first (interim) UFC champion, outlasting and outsmarting Yoel Romero, even though Yoel fucked his knee up in the first round. Yoel has no stamina, looked like a zombie by the fourth round. Pity Whittaker's a Russell Crowe NZer, even has a f'n Aussie flag tattoo... Both fighters would've crushed Bisping, though at least he's pretty funny.

        Awesome card, except for the second fight on the main card which was a bit of a bathroom break. Disappointed Werdum fucked up and took Overeem down right after breaking Reem's glass jaw, he would've won if he'd just stayed on his feet.

        Yep to all that.

        Dumb from Werdum.

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          #292

          Fight of the weekend, and possibly year so far, was Johnson v Gaethje in the Ultimate Fighter Finale.

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          • DuluthD Offline
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            #293

            Manuwa's chances of getting a title fight are pretty much done after today. He had managed to talk his way into contention but that jaw is dodgy

            Strange career. He looks unbelievable and smashes everyone outside the top five but cannot beat any real contender

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              #294

              Jones is scary

              I thought DC was striking surprisingly well and might have even edged the first two rounds. Then that head kick and brutal punches. Wow.


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                EARLY PRELIMS

                Burkman v Dober
                Cracking finish from Dober
                Great way to start the evening

                Brooks v Shelton
                Tough for Shelton on the split decision

                Curran v Albu
                Barnstormer. Toe to toe for 15 mins. Tough as.
                Tough on Curran.

                PRELIMS

                Fili v Kattar
                Solid win for Kattar on the back of a crisp jab

                Ortega v Moicano
                Round 1 a great 'boxing' match. Crisp, crisp punch and counter punch in each others faces.
                Round 2 more of the same. Great chins from both fighters.
                Round 3 more of the same, and then Moicano takes it to the ground and gets guilotteined. Should have stayed standing.
                Cracking contest.

                Barao v Sterling
                Good back and forth and deserved decision for Sterling

                Knight v Lamas
                Great patience from Lamas, great heart from Knight but big finish from Lamas.

                MAIN CARD

                Manuwa v Oezdemir
                WOW. What a finish from Oezdemir.

                Cerrone v Lawler
                Great first round, Cerrone showed his mettle against a blitzing Lawler.
                Cerrone in charge in round 2.
                Round 3 a war.
                No way was that a unanimous decision for Lawler.

                Cyborg v Evinger
                Fair play Evinger was game, but Cyborg in a different class.

                Woodley v Maia
                Woodley too - insert word - for Maia

                Cormier v Jones
                Round 1 both tough as fuck. So quick
                Round 2 ditto, DC on top
                Round 3. WOW. Brutal.

                A good big 'un will invariably beat a good little 'un
                Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                Anik, Rogan, Cruz are a fantastic commentary team

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                  EARLY PRELIMS

                  Burkman v Dober
                  Cracking finish from Dober
                  Great way to start the evening

                  Brooks v Shelton
                  Tough for Shelton on the split decision

                  Curran v Albu
                  Barnstormer. Toe to toe for 15 mins. Tough as.
                  Tough on Curran.

                  PRELIMS

                  Fili v Kattar
                  Solid win for Kattar on the back of a crisp jab

                  Ortega v Moicano
                  Round 1 a great 'boxing' match. Crisp, crisp punch and counter punch in each others faces.
                  Round 2 more of the same. Great chins from both fighters.
                  Round 3 more of the same, and then Moicano takes it to the ground and gets guilotteined. Should have stayed standing.
                  Cracking contest.

                  Barao v Sterling
                  Good back and forth and deserved decision for Sterling

                  Knight v Lamas
                  Great patience from Lamas, great heart from Knight but big finish from Lamas.

                  MAIN CARD

                  Manuwa v Oezdemir
                  WOW. What a finish from Oezdemir.

                  Cerrone v Lawler
                  Great first round, Cerrone showed his mettle against a blitzing Lawler.
                  Cerrone in charge in round 2.
                  Round 3 a war.
                  No way was that a unanimous decision for Lawler.

                  Cyborg v Evinger
                  Fair play Evinger was game, but Cyborg in a different class.

                  Woodley v Maia
                  Woodley too - insert word - for Maia

                  Cormier v Jones
                  Round 1 both tough as fuck. So quick
                  Round 2 ditto, DC on top
                  Round 3. WOW. Brutal.

                  A good big 'un will invariably beat a good little 'un
                  Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                  Anik, Rogan, Cruz are a fantastic commentary team

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #296

                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                  Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                  He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                  https://streamable.com/6xmvi

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                  • MilkM Milk

                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                    He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                    https://streamable.com/6xmvi

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                    #297

                    @Milk said in UFC:

                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                    He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                    https://streamable.com/6xmvi

                    Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Milk said in UFC:

                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                      He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                      https://streamable.com/6xmvi

                      Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

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                      Milk
                      wrote on last edited by Milk
                      #298

                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                      Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                      Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                      DC's statement:

                      First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                      Big John's response:
                      https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

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                      • MilkM Milk

                        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                        Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                        Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                        Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                        DC's statement:

                        First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                        Big John's response:
                        https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

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                        MiketheSnow
                        wrote on last edited by MiketheSnow
                        #299

                        @Milk said in UFC:

                        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                        Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                        Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                        Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                        DC's statement:

                        First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                        Big John's response:
                        https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

                        Great to see all round.

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          @Milk said in UFC:

                          @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                          Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                          Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                          Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                          DC's statement:

                          First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                          Big John's response:
                          https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

                          Great to see all round.

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                          Unco
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                          Yeah, um, about that main event... Jones failed a steroid test...

                          So I guess DC gets the title back and Jones gets banned for four years because it's his second failed test?

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                            #301

                            FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                            Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                            Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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                              FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                              Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                              Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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                              @Duluth said in UFC:

                              FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                              Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                              Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                              What an idiot.

                              But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                              Ban him for life.

                              There are some good LH coming through.

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                                #303

                                He'll end up in Bellator in no time.

                                He was my guy, based purely on ability, but what an utter piston wristed gibbon. That speech at the end of the fight is so slimey now. I actually thought he showed some class for once in his life.

                                Cormier probably Knew and so did White.

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                                  Classy response from DC. IMO smart to withhold his opinion until we know more:

                                  “It's hard to find words to describe how I'm feeling right now,” Cormier said. “I'm disappointed to hear the news. It's very emotional.
                                  “We as athletes are entitled to due process, and I will refrain from saying much more until I know exactly what happened.
                                  “In my mind, on July 29, I competed and I lost. I thought Jon Jones was the better man that day. I don't know what to think anymore. I can’t believe we are going through all of this again. We will see what happens next.
                                  “Thank you to all my fans who have supported me during this dark time. I love you all very much.”

                                  https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/22/16187722/daniel-cormier-releases-statement-regarding-jon-jones-drug-test-failure

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                                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                                    FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                    Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                    Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                    What an idiot.

                                    But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                    Ban him for life.

                                    There are some good LH coming through.

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                                    #305

                                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                                    FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                    Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                    Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                    What an idiot.

                                    But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                    Ban him for life.

                                    There are some good LH coming through.

                                    I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                    It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                    Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                                    • UncoU Unco

                                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                                      FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                      Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                      Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                      What an idiot.

                                      But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                      Ban him for life.

                                      There are some good LH coming through.

                                      I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                      It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                      Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                                      #306

                                      @Unco said in UFC:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                                      FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                      Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                      Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                      What an idiot.

                                      But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                      Ban him for life.

                                      There are some good LH coming through.

                                      I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                      It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                      Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                                      Agreed.

                                      If they don't see the long term impact of this and ban him for life then the UFC is on the WWE road.

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                                        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                        @Duluth said in UFC:

                                        FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                        Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                        Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                        What an idiot.

                                        But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                        Ban him for life.

                                        There are some good LH coming through.

                                        I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                        It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                        Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                                        @Unco said in UFC:

                                        Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                                        Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                                        Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                                          'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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