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  • UncoU Unco

    NZ gets its first (interim) UFC champion, outlasting and outsmarting Yoel Romero, even though Yoel fucked his knee up in the first round. Yoel has no stamina, looked like a zombie by the fourth round. Pity Whittaker's a Russell Crowe NZer, even has a f'n Aussie flag tattoo... Both fighters would've crushed Bisping, though at least he's pretty funny.

    Awesome card, except for the second fight on the main card which was a bit of a bathroom break. Disappointed Werdum fucked up and took Overeem down right after breaking Reem's glass jaw, he would've won if he'd just stayed on his feet.

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    @Unco said in UFC:

    NZ gets its first (interim) UFC champion, outlasting and outsmarting Yoel Romero, even though Yoel fucked his knee up in the first round. Yoel has no stamina, looked like a zombie by the fourth round. Pity Whittaker's a Russell Crowe NZer, even has a f'n Aussie flag tattoo... Both fighters would've crushed Bisping, though at least he's pretty funny.

    Awesome card, except for the second fight on the main card which was a bit of a bathroom break. Disappointed Werdum fucked up and took Overeem down right after breaking Reem's glass jaw, he would've won if he'd just stayed on his feet.

    Yep to all that.

    Dumb from Werdum.

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      Fight of the weekend, and possibly year so far, was Johnson v Gaethje in the Ultimate Fighter Finale.

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        #293

        Manuwa's chances of getting a title fight are pretty much done after today. He had managed to talk his way into contention but that jaw is dodgy

        Strange career. He looks unbelievable and smashes everyone outside the top five but cannot beat any real contender

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          #294

          Jones is scary

          I thought DC was striking surprisingly well and might have even edged the first two rounds. Then that head kick and brutal punches. Wow.


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            EARLY PRELIMS

            Burkman v Dober
            Cracking finish from Dober
            Great way to start the evening

            Brooks v Shelton
            Tough for Shelton on the split decision

            Curran v Albu
            Barnstormer. Toe to toe for 15 mins. Tough as.
            Tough on Curran.

            PRELIMS

            Fili v Kattar
            Solid win for Kattar on the back of a crisp jab

            Ortega v Moicano
            Round 1 a great 'boxing' match. Crisp, crisp punch and counter punch in each others faces.
            Round 2 more of the same. Great chins from both fighters.
            Round 3 more of the same, and then Moicano takes it to the ground and gets guilotteined. Should have stayed standing.
            Cracking contest.

            Barao v Sterling
            Good back and forth and deserved decision for Sterling

            Knight v Lamas
            Great patience from Lamas, great heart from Knight but big finish from Lamas.

            MAIN CARD

            Manuwa v Oezdemir
            WOW. What a finish from Oezdemir.

            Cerrone v Lawler
            Great first round, Cerrone showed his mettle against a blitzing Lawler.
            Cerrone in charge in round 2.
            Round 3 a war.
            No way was that a unanimous decision for Lawler.

            Cyborg v Evinger
            Fair play Evinger was game, but Cyborg in a different class.

            Woodley v Maia
            Woodley too - insert word - for Maia

            Cormier v Jones
            Round 1 both tough as fuck. So quick
            Round 2 ditto, DC on top
            Round 3. WOW. Brutal.

            A good big 'un will invariably beat a good little 'un
            Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

            Anik, Rogan, Cruz are a fantastic commentary team

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              EARLY PRELIMS

              Burkman v Dober
              Cracking finish from Dober
              Great way to start the evening

              Brooks v Shelton
              Tough for Shelton on the split decision

              Curran v Albu
              Barnstormer. Toe to toe for 15 mins. Tough as.
              Tough on Curran.

              PRELIMS

              Fili v Kattar
              Solid win for Kattar on the back of a crisp jab

              Ortega v Moicano
              Round 1 a great 'boxing' match. Crisp, crisp punch and counter punch in each others faces.
              Round 2 more of the same. Great chins from both fighters.
              Round 3 more of the same, and then Moicano takes it to the ground and gets guilotteined. Should have stayed standing.
              Cracking contest.

              Barao v Sterling
              Good back and forth and deserved decision for Sterling

              Knight v Lamas
              Great patience from Lamas, great heart from Knight but big finish from Lamas.

              MAIN CARD

              Manuwa v Oezdemir
              WOW. What a finish from Oezdemir.

              Cerrone v Lawler
              Great first round, Cerrone showed his mettle against a blitzing Lawler.
              Cerrone in charge in round 2.
              Round 3 a war.
              No way was that a unanimous decision for Lawler.

              Cyborg v Evinger
              Fair play Evinger was game, but Cyborg in a different class.

              Woodley v Maia
              Woodley too - insert word - for Maia

              Cormier v Jones
              Round 1 both tough as fuck. So quick
              Round 2 ditto, DC on top
              Round 3. WOW. Brutal.

              A good big 'un will invariably beat a good little 'un
              Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

              Anik, Rogan, Cruz are a fantastic commentary team

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              Milk
              wrote on last edited by
              #296

              @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

              Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

              He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

              https://streamable.com/6xmvi

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              • MilkM Milk

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                https://streamable.com/6xmvi

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                @Milk said in UFC:

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                https://streamable.com/6xmvi

                Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @Milk said in UFC:

                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                  Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

                  He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

                  https://streamable.com/6xmvi

                  Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

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                  Milk
                  wrote on last edited by Milk
                  #298

                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                  Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                  Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                  Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                  DC's statement:

                  First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                  Big John's response:
                  https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

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                  • MilkM Milk

                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                    Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                    Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                    DC's statement:

                    First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                    Big John's response:
                    https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

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                    MiketheSnow
                    wrote on last edited by MiketheSnow
                    #299

                    @Milk said in UFC:

                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                    Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                    Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                    DC's statement:

                    First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                    Big John's response:
                    https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

                    Great to see all round.

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Milk said in UFC:

                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

                      Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

                      Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

                      DC's statement:

                      First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

                      Big John's response:
                      https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

                      Great to see all round.

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                      Yeah, um, about that main event... Jones failed a steroid test...

                      So I guess DC gets the title back and Jones gets banned for four years because it's his second failed test?

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                        #301

                        FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                        Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                        Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                          Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                          Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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                          @Duluth said in UFC:

                          FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                          Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                          Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                          What an idiot.

                          But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                          Ban him for life.

                          There are some good LH coming through.

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                            He'll end up in Bellator in no time.

                            He was my guy, based purely on ability, but what an utter piston wristed gibbon. That speech at the end of the fight is so slimey now. I actually thought he showed some class for once in his life.

                            Cormier probably Knew and so did White.

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                              Classy response from DC. IMO smart to withhold his opinion until we know more:

                              “It's hard to find words to describe how I'm feeling right now,” Cormier said. “I'm disappointed to hear the news. It's very emotional.
                              “We as athletes are entitled to due process, and I will refrain from saying much more until I know exactly what happened.
                              “In my mind, on July 29, I competed and I lost. I thought Jon Jones was the better man that day. I don't know what to think anymore. I can’t believe we are going through all of this again. We will see what happens next.
                              “Thank you to all my fans who have supported me during this dark time. I love you all very much.”

                              https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/22/16187722/daniel-cormier-releases-statement-regarding-jon-jones-drug-test-failure

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                                @Duluth said in UFC:

                                FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                What an idiot.

                                But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                Ban him for life.

                                There are some good LH coming through.

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                                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                @Duluth said in UFC:

                                FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                What an idiot.

                                But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                Ban him for life.

                                There are some good LH coming through.

                                I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                                • UncoU Unco

                                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                                  FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                  Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                  Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                  What an idiot.

                                  But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                  Ban him for life.

                                  There are some good LH coming through.

                                  I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                  It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                  Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                                  #306

                                  @Unco said in UFC:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                                  FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                  Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                  Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                  What an idiot.

                                  But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                  Ban him for life.

                                  There are some good LH coming through.

                                  I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                  It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                  Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                                  Agreed.

                                  If they don't see the long term impact of this and ban him for life then the UFC is on the WWE road.

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                                  • UncoU Unco

                                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                                    FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                                    Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                                    Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                                    What an idiot.

                                    But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                                    Ban him for life.

                                    There are some good LH coming through.

                                    I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                                    It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                                    Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                                    #307

                                    @Unco said in UFC:

                                    Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                                    Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                                    Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                                      'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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                                        'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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                                        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                        'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

                                        More like supplemented taint.

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                                        • MilkM Milk

                                          @Unco said in UFC:

                                          Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                                          Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                                          Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                                          @Milk said in UFC:

                                          @Unco said in UFC:

                                          Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                                          Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                                          Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

                                          Mark Hunt mate. He took the UFC to court for his fight with Brock Lesnar.

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