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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @Milk said in UFC:

    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

    Disappointing from DC bitching to Big John.

    He was knocked out and didn't even remember getting kicked. Probably not fair to judge him on it:

    https://streamable.com/6xmvi

    Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

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    Milk
    wrote on last edited by Milk
    #298

    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

    Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

    Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

    Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

    DC's statement:

    First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

    Big John's response:
    https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

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    • MilkM Milk

      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

      Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

      Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

      Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

      DC's statement:

      First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

      Big John's response:
      https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

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      MiketheSnow
      wrote on last edited by MiketheSnow
      #299

      @Milk said in UFC:

      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

      Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

      Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

      Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

      DC's statement:

      First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

      Big John's response:
      https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

      Great to see all round.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @Milk said in UFC:

        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

        Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

        Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

        Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

        DC's statement:

        First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

        Big John's response:
        https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

        Great to see all round.

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        Unco
        wrote on last edited by
        #300

        Yeah, um, about that main event... Jones failed a steroid test...

        So I guess DC gets the title back and Jones gets banned for four years because it's his second failed test?

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          Duluth
          wrote on last edited by Duluth
          #301

          FFS the LHW division is a mess now

          Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

          Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            FFS the LHW division is a mess now

            Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

            Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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            MiketheSnow
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            #302

            @Duluth said in UFC:

            FFS the LHW division is a mess now

            Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

            Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

            What an idiot.

            But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

            Ban him for life.

            There are some good LH coming through.

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              raznomore
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              #303

              He'll end up in Bellator in no time.

              He was my guy, based purely on ability, but what an utter piston wristed gibbon. That speech at the end of the fight is so slimey now. I actually thought he showed some class for once in his life.

              Cormier probably Knew and so did White.

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              • MilkM Offline
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                Milk
                wrote on last edited by
                #304

                Classy response from DC. IMO smart to withhold his opinion until we know more:

                “It's hard to find words to describe how I'm feeling right now,” Cormier said. “I'm disappointed to hear the news. It's very emotional.
                “We as athletes are entitled to due process, and I will refrain from saying much more until I know exactly what happened.
                “In my mind, on July 29, I competed and I lost. I thought Jon Jones was the better man that day. I don't know what to think anymore. I can’t believe we are going through all of this again. We will see what happens next.
                “Thank you to all my fans who have supported me during this dark time. I love you all very much.”

                https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/22/16187722/daniel-cormier-releases-statement-regarding-jon-jones-drug-test-failure

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                  FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                  Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                  Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                  What an idiot.

                  But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                  Ban him for life.

                  There are some good LH coming through.

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                  Unco
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #305

                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                  FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                  Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                  Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                  What an idiot.

                  But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                  Ban him for life.

                  There are some good LH coming through.

                  I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                  It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                  Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                  • UncoU Unco

                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                    FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                    Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                    Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                    What an idiot.

                    But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                    Ban him for life.

                    There are some good LH coming through.

                    I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                    It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                    Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                    MiketheSnow
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #306

                    @Unco said in UFC:

                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                    FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                    Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                    Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                    What an idiot.

                    But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                    Ban him for life.

                    There are some good LH coming through.

                    I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                    It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                    Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                    Agreed.

                    If they don't see the long term impact of this and ban him for life then the UFC is on the WWE road.

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                    • UncoU Unco

                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                      FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                      Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                      Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                      What an idiot.

                      But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                      Ban him for life.

                      There are some good LH coming through.

                      I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                      It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                      Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                      #307

                      @Unco said in UFC:

                      Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                      Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                      Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                        MiketheSnow
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                        #308

                        'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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                          #309

                          @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                          'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

                          More like supplemented taint.

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                          • MilkM Milk

                            @Unco said in UFC:

                            Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                            Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                            Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                            raznomore
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #310

                            @Milk said in UFC:

                            @Unco said in UFC:

                            Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                            Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                            Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

                            Mark Hunt mate. He took the UFC to court for his fight with Brock Lesnar.

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                              MiketheSnow
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                              #311

                              UFC 215
                              Some very good action, upsets and controversy.

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                                #312

                                Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                                Ben Johnson moment.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                                  Ben Johnson moment.

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                                  #313

                                  @MajorRage said in UFC:

                                  Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                                  Ben Johnson moment.

                                  Hopefully.

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                                    #314

                                    Been some cracking fights the past month.

                                    UFC 216

                                    Last three fights delivered. Def worth a watch.

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                                      #315

                                      Cerrone v Till is definitely worth a watch

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                                        UFC 119

                                        Golm v Colombo
                                        Impressive debut from Golm. Fast and tough. And skills to pay the bills

                                        Figueiredo v Brooks
                                        Bullshit hometown decision
                                        Brooks' wrestling too good for Figueiredo

                                        Dos Santos v Griffin
                                        A barrage from Dos Santos in Round 1 and somehow Griffin survives
                                        Steady Round 2
                                        And a deserved unanimous decision for Dos Santos after some heavy bombs in Round 3

                                        Dias v Gordon
                                        Gordon's ground game too strong for Dias

                                        Carlos Junior v Masrshman
                                        Too easy for Carlos Junior as Marshman gives his back

                                        Luque v Price
                                        Luque faster, stronger and more precise

                                        Lineker v Vera
                                        Dominance from Lineker

                                        Santos v Hermansson
                                        Dynamic kicking and striking from Santos for a first round stoppage

                                        Trinaldo v Miller
                                        Tough, tough toe to toe with Trinaldo getting the decision

                                        Munhoz v Font
                                        Fantastic guillotine from Munhoz

                                        Maia v Covington
                                        Big win for Covington. Deserved.

                                        Machida v Brunson
                                        Wow. Machida in control and then Brunson turns out the lights. Maybe on his career

                                        Big night next week 🙂

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                                          #317

                                          GSP!

                                          Pity about the other two titles fights though. Joanna 😞

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