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  • MilkM Offline
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    Classy response from DC. IMO smart to withhold his opinion until we know more:

    “It's hard to find words to describe how I'm feeling right now,” Cormier said. “I'm disappointed to hear the news. It's very emotional.
    “We as athletes are entitled to due process, and I will refrain from saying much more until I know exactly what happened.
    “In my mind, on July 29, I competed and I lost. I thought Jon Jones was the better man that day. I don't know what to think anymore. I can’t believe we are going through all of this again. We will see what happens next.
    “Thank you to all my fans who have supported me during this dark time. I love you all very much.”

    https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/22/16187722/daniel-cormier-releases-statement-regarding-jon-jones-drug-test-failure

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      @Duluth said in UFC:

      FFS the LHW division is a mess now

      Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

      Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

      What an idiot.

      But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

      Ban him for life.

      There are some good LH coming through.

      UncoU Offline
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      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

      @Duluth said in UFC:

      FFS the LHW division is a mess now

      Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

      Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

      What an idiot.

      But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

      Ban him for life.

      There are some good LH coming through.

      I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

      It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

      Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

        @Duluth said in UFC:

        FFS the LHW division is a mess now

        Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

        Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

        What an idiot.

        But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

        Ban him for life.

        There are some good LH coming through.

        I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

        It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

        Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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        #306

        @Unco said in UFC:

        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

        @Duluth said in UFC:

        FFS the LHW division is a mess now

        Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

        Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

        What an idiot.

        But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

        Ban him for life.

        There are some good LH coming through.

        I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

        It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

        Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

        Agreed.

        If they don't see the long term impact of this and ban him for life then the UFC is on the WWE road.

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        • UncoU Unco

          @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

          @Duluth said in UFC:

          FFS the LHW division is a mess now

          Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

          Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

          What an idiot.

          But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

          Ban him for life.

          There are some good LH coming through.

          I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

          It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

          Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

          MilkM Offline
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          Milk
          wrote on last edited by
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          @Unco said in UFC:

          Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

          Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

          Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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          • MiketheSnowM Offline
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            #308

            'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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              @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

              'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

              More like supplemented taint.

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              • MilkM Milk

                @Unco said in UFC:

                Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                #310

                @Milk said in UFC:

                @Unco said in UFC:

                Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

                Mark Hunt mate. He took the UFC to court for his fight with Brock Lesnar.

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                  UFC 215
                  Some very good action, upsets and controversy.

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                    #312

                    Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                    Ben Johnson moment.

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                      Ben Johnson moment.

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                      @MajorRage said in UFC:

                      Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                      Ben Johnson moment.

                      Hopefully.

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                        #314

                        Been some cracking fights the past month.

                        UFC 216

                        Last three fights delivered. Def worth a watch.

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                          Cerrone v Till is definitely worth a watch

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                            UFC 119

                            Golm v Colombo
                            Impressive debut from Golm. Fast and tough. And skills to pay the bills

                            Figueiredo v Brooks
                            Bullshit hometown decision
                            Brooks' wrestling too good for Figueiredo

                            Dos Santos v Griffin
                            A barrage from Dos Santos in Round 1 and somehow Griffin survives
                            Steady Round 2
                            And a deserved unanimous decision for Dos Santos after some heavy bombs in Round 3

                            Dias v Gordon
                            Gordon's ground game too strong for Dias

                            Carlos Junior v Masrshman
                            Too easy for Carlos Junior as Marshman gives his back

                            Luque v Price
                            Luque faster, stronger and more precise

                            Lineker v Vera
                            Dominance from Lineker

                            Santos v Hermansson
                            Dynamic kicking and striking from Santos for a first round stoppage

                            Trinaldo v Miller
                            Tough, tough toe to toe with Trinaldo getting the decision

                            Munhoz v Font
                            Fantastic guillotine from Munhoz

                            Maia v Covington
                            Big win for Covington. Deserved.

                            Machida v Brunson
                            Wow. Machida in control and then Brunson turns out the lights. Maybe on his career

                            Big night next week 🙂

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                              GSP!

                              Pity about the other two titles fights though. Joanna 😞

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                                UFC 217

                                Zahabi v Ramos
                                If at first you don't succeed...
                                Great second attempt at spinning elbow from Ramos turns Zahabi's lights out

                                Oleinik v Blaydes
                                What a chin on Oleinik in Round 1
                                Then a controversial illegal kick that barely brushed Oleinik's ear in Round 2 caused confusion before Blaydes got the TKO after the ref called Oleinik couldn't continue

                                Brown v Gall
                                A war, back and forth, but Brown too strong

                                Saint Preux v Anderson
                                Tough, tough battle with Saint Preux tiring and down on the cards and then he pulls out a roundhouse kick to the head that puts Anderson out for the count
                                Wow

                                Harris v Godbeer
                                Godbeer spent most of the first round on his back but did a good job of covering up
                                Then Harris has an accidental low blow followed by a kick to the face after the ref called time twice
                                Harris DQd, Godbeer with the win. Not that he knew anything about it
                                Harris will come though. Fast, dynamic and tough. With skills

                                Vick v Duffy
                                Really good back and forth fight with Duffy ahead on the cards
                                Then Vick catches Duffy with a great uppercut for the ref to stop the fight just before the 2nd round buzzer

                                Hendricks v Costa
                                Costa too big, too quick, too skillful for Hendricks. But Hendricks durable and game. And experienced.
                                A pissed off Costa ups the pace in the second round and Big John McCarthy calls it after a Costa barrage

                                Thompson v Masvidal
                                Masvidal bamboozled by Thompson's speed and style

                                Jedrzejczyk v Namajunas
                                WOW
                                What a fight, what a finish from Namajunas
                                Accurate and punishing

                                Barbrandt v Dillishaw
                                WOW
                                So fast
                                Brilliant finish from TJ
                                Rematch please

                                Bisping v GSP
                                MSG, GSP, OMG

                                BEST CARD EVER

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                                  For me this was all about GSP. Just seeing him come to the ring was surreal. He was awesome. Bisping is a division gate keeper that somehow ended up champion. So theres got to be something said about that... I hope GSP sticks around. I think if he stays at middleweight Whittaker will ruin him. You could see Whittaker licking his lips after the fight. So would be happy to see him go back to Welterweight. But Woodley is a hell of a speed bump. It's not an easy road either way he goes.

                                  Rose Namajunas was the obvious surprise of the night. Scary to think she is only 25. I have been a fan for a while. She started out as a bit of a gimmick. Another pretty girl, Paige Vanzant type. But she went away from being a poster girl, shaved her head, ditched the bikinis at weigh ins and became a fucken weapon. Huge, huge fan of Thug.

                                  No Love really started to get it going but lost composure. Dillashaw is a hard puzzle to solve but I think he was more lucky than anything there has to be a rematch. I know the money is for a Cruz fight next up but I'd rather see these 2 go at it again.

                                  Time for Hendricks to give it away.

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                                    For me this was all about GSP. Just seeing him come to the ring was surreal. He was awesome. Bisping is a division gate keeper that somehow ended up champion. So theres got to be something said about that... I hope GSP sticks around. I think if he stays at middleweight Whittaker will ruin him. You could see Whittaker licking his lips after the fight. So would be happy to see him go back to Welterweight. But Woodley is a hell of a speed bump. It's not an easy road either way he goes.

                                    Rose Namajunas was the obvious surprise of the night. Scary to think she is only 25. I have been a fan for a while. She started out as a bit of a gimmick. Another pretty girl, Paige Vanzant type. But she went away from being a poster girl, shaved her head, ditched the bikinis at weigh ins and became a fucken weapon. Huge, huge fan of Thug.

                                    No Love really started to get it going but lost composure. Dillashaw is a hard puzzle to solve but I think he was more lucky than anything there has to be a rematch. I know the money is for a Cruz fight next up but I'd rather see these 2 go at it again.

                                    Time for Hendricks to give it away.

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                                    @raznomore said in UFC:

                                    For me this was all about GSP. Just seeing him come to the ring was surreal. He was awesome. Bisping is a division gate keeper that somehow ended up champion. So theres got to be something said about that... I hope GSP sticks around. I think if he stays at middleweight Whittaker will ruin him. You could see Whittaker licking his lips after the fight. So would be happy to see him go back to Welterweight. But Woodley is a hell of a speed bump. It's not an easy road either way he goes.

                                    Rose Namajunas was the obvious surprise of the night. Scary to think she is only 25. I have been a fan for a while. She started out as a bit of a gimmick. Another pretty girl, Paige Vanzant type. But she went away from being a poster girl, shaved her head, ditched the bikinis at weigh ins and became a fucken weapon. Huge, huge fan of Thug.

                                    No Love really started to get it going but lost composure. Dillashaw is a hard puzzle to solve but I think he was more lucky than anything there has to be a rematch. I know the money is for a Cruz fight next up but I'd rather see these 2 go at it again.

                                    Time for Hendricks to give it away.

                                    GSP V CMG @MSG

                                    TJ wants Mighty Mouse

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                                      UFC Fight Night 120

                                      CLAY GUIDA V JOE LAUZON
                                      Guida's never looked better
                                      Sharp, dynamic and accurate
                                      Great TKO finish in the 1st Round

                                      RAPHAEL ASSUNCAO V MATTHEW LOPEZ
                                      Game effort from Lopez but Assuncao' experience shone through
                                      Awesome finish in the 3rd Round and great pull out with Lopez buckled and out cold
                                      Great refereeing too

                                      NATE MARQUARDT V CEZAR FERREIRA
                                      Thought Marquardt had done enough

                                      JUNIOR ALBINI V ANDREI ARLOVSKI
                                      Some heavy hitting from both fighters in the 1st
                                      Much the same in the 2nd. A bit of a stand-up wrestling match then trading punches. Hell of a chin on Albini and Arlovski crisper to the punch
                                      Great round for Arlovski. Best he's been for ages. Huge variety in his arsenal
                                      Albini was a perfect opponent. Slow
                                      Deserved unanimous decision for Arlovski

                                      BROWN V SANCHEZ
                                      Did not disappoint
                                      Brown took a liver shot early then elbowed Sanchez out as he was holding Sanchez's leg
                                      Classic Brown

                                      DUSTIN POIRIER V ANTHONY PETTIS
                                      Awesome 1st Round. Wrestling, kicking, banging. Pettis did well to see the bell.
                                      Wrestling reversals, brutal ground and pound, blood pissing from Pettis. A war
                                      Poirier's wrestling too strong and Pettis taps with what looked like a popped rib

                                      Great card

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                                        UFC Fight Night 121

                                        HAMILTON V WIECZOREK
                                        Average bout. Not a lot happened.
                                        Wieczorek with the surprise decision.

                                        LAUSA V SHELTON
                                        Shelton too strong and quick.
                                        Unanimous decision.

                                        CHAMBERS V KASSEM
                                        Kassem patient and waited for Chambers to burn herself out to get the unanimouse decision

                                        Not a great Early Prelim Card

                                        BROWN V CAMACHO
                                        Battle Royale
                                        Toe to toe and rock 'em, sock 'em
                                        Could have gone either way but Camacho gets the decision

                                        COULTER V TUIVASA
                                        Bam Bam
                                        Crushing leg kick floored Coulter and then he followed up with a flying knee to spark out Coulter

                                        LENTZ V BROOKS
                                        Brooks sharper and quicker to the punch for 1 1/2 rounds then Lentz ties Brooks up an gets the tap from a guillotine

                                        BENOIT V MOKHTARIAN
                                        A dance and Benoit with the better moves

                                        That's more like it 🙂

                                        VOLKANOVSKI V YOUNG
                                        Volkanovski too strong for unanimous decision

                                        THEODOROU V KELLY
                                        Another crap decision. Should have been split at least.
                                        Kelly was game

                                        MATTHEWS V VELICKOVIC
                                        Matthews by split decision. Decent fight

                                        MEANS V MUHAMMAD
                                        Muhammad with the decision. Average

                                        RAWLINGS V CLARK
                                        Clark with the decision over Sideshow Bob

                                        WERDUM V TYBRA
                                        A gulf in class with Werdum with the deserved unanimous decision
                                        But Tybura is nails

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                                          UFC 218

                                          WILLIS V CROWDER
                                          No frills from Willis but man can he bang
                                          Great chin from Crowder but Willis was too strong and KOd Crowder

                                          KIMBALL V REYES
                                          Kimball was game but Reyes too skillful
                                          Rear naked choke for the finish at the end of the 1st

                                          HOMASI V ALHASSAN
                                          Both fighters going toe to toe
                                          Alhassan drops Homasi and Herb Dean stops the fight
                                          Controversial stoppage and a mistake from Dean

                                          COOPER V MAGANA
                                          Magana brave and durable but Cooper too strong and gets the result after 7 minutes of ground control

                                          HERRIG V CASEY
                                          Chess match that went the distance with Herrig getting the slpit decision

                                          TEYMUR V KLOSE
                                          Unanimous decision for Teymur despite being warned for dancing away from the action
                                          Stood on the outside and countered superbly

                                          OLIVEIRA V MEDEIROS
                                          Oliveira knocked down early and then it was 'rock 'em, sock 'em' for the whole of the round
                                          Round 2 slower pace but still full on
                                          Round 3 back and forth on the floor, then when it got back to the feet Medeiros piled on the pressure and finished Oliveira
                                          Awesome fight

                                          OLIVEIRA V FELDER
                                          Back and forth wrestling and jujitsu match before Felder finished it with heavy elbows
                                          Solid

                                          TORRES V WATERSON
                                          Evenly matched fight with Torres getting the unanimous decision

                                          ALVAREZ V GAETHJE
                                          Fast and furious and lived up to the hype
                                          Non stop trading, Alvarez targeting the body, Gaethje targeting Alvarez's lead leg
                                          Cracking second round, too close to call
                                          Gaethje raw, Alvarez accurate
                                          Holy Shit
                                          You won't see much better than that
                                          Gaethje pressing in the third round and then Alvarez pulls out a knee that buckled Gaethje
                                          Two tough bastards

                                          CEJUDO V PETTIS
                                          Cejudo too strong for Pettis and gets the decision

                                          OVEREEM V NGANNOU
                                          WOAH. Lights out ladies and gentlemen
                                          Ngannou absolutely flattens Overeem with a left hook
                                          Snapped his neck back like a Christmas turkey

                                          HOLLOWAY V ALDO
                                          Aldo showed plenty of mettle and durability but Holloway too strong and too accurate
                                          Aldo battered by the end

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