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Blues 2018

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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @tim Tom Robinson may be the 5th lock and my choice for 1st/5 cover would be Jade Te Rure. Just compared Vaega and Johnson's stats for the Mitre 10 and Johnson's stack up pretty well. He made 12 clean breaks to Vaega's 15 with much less game time and in a struggling team. Defense seems to be Vaega's major work on at only 73% (missed 22 tackles), although Johnsons was not perfect at 82%.

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    @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2018:

    Tom Robinson

    Ah, that's who I meant, not Bond.

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    • TimT Tim

      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2018:

      Tom Robinson

      Ah, that's who I meant, not Bond.

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      @tim although Bond would be a good option too, very good tight lock!

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @tim although Bond would be a good option too, very good tight lock!

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        @taniwharugby With any luck, Goodhue will step up too.

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        • TimT Tim

          @taniwharugby With any luck, Goodhue will step up too.

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          @tim yeah he started to really step up this year, missed a couple of easy tackles going for the big hits, but throws himself about and when our dysfunctional lineout was functioing, it was usually with him there.

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          • TimT Tim

            Likely XXIII:

            1. Hodgman
            2. Parsons
            3. Tu'ungafasi
            4. Tuipulotu
            5. Scrafton
            6. Kaino
            7. Gibson
            8. Ioane
            9. Pulu
            10. Perofeta
              -- now the speculation starts --
            11. Ioane
            12. Faiane
            13. SBW
            14. Nanai
            15. Duffie
              -- reserves are more predictable --
            16. Moulds
            17. Manu
            18. Tamoaieta
            19. Cowley-Tuioti
            20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
            21. Nock
            22. Gatland
            23. Moala

            Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

            I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

            Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

            Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

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            @tim said in Blues 2018:

            Likely XXIII:

            1. Hodgman
            2. Parsons
            3. Tu'ungafasi
            4. Tuipulotu
            5. Scrafton
            6. Kaino
            7. Gibson
            8. Ioane
            9. Pulu
            10. Perofeta
              -- now the speculation starts --
            11. Ioane
            12. Faiane
            13. SBW
            14. Nanai
            15. Duffie
              -- reserves are more predictable --
            16. Moulds
            17. Manu
            18. Tamoaieta
            19. Cowley-Tuioti
            20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
            21. Nock
            22. Gatland
            23. Moala

            Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

            I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

            Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

            Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

            Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

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              @tim said in Blues 2018:

              Likely XXIII:

              1. Hodgman
              2. Parsons
              3. Tu'ungafasi
              4. Tuipulotu
              5. Scrafton
              6. Kaino
              7. Gibson
              8. Ioane
              9. Pulu
              10. Perofeta
                -- now the speculation starts --
              11. Ioane
              12. Faiane
              13. SBW
              14. Nanai
              15. Duffie
                -- reserves are more predictable --
              16. Moulds
              17. Manu
              18. Tamoaieta
              19. Cowley-Tuioti
              20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
              21. Nock
              22. Gatland
              23. Moala

              Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

              I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

              Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

              Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

              Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

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              @cgrant I was going to put him at 23, but then I felt a momentary hopefulness.

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                #101

                Ezekiel Lindenmuth is a possibility at loosehead.

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                • TimT Tim

                  Ezekiel Lindenmuth is a possibility at loosehead.

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                  cgrant
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                  @tim
                  Still a bit too young but a fine prospect. Hodgman should have a great SR season and earn an AB call. His scrummaging has improved a lot since the BIL tour and he is one of the most effective props in NZ at clearing rucks.

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                    The 2018 Blues squad is:

                    Hookers: Leni Apisai, Matt Moulds, James Parsons.

                    Front row: Alex Hodgman, Sione Mafileo, Pauliasi Manu, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Ofa Tuungafasi.

                    Locks: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Josh Goodhue, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jimmy Tupou

                    Loose forwards: Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Dalton Papalii, Glenn Preston, Kara Pryor, Murphy Taramai.

                    Halfbacks: Sam Nock, Augustine Puli, Jonathan Ruru.

                    First Five: Otere Black/Daniel Kirkpatrick, Bryn Gatland, Stephen Perofeta.

                    Midfield: Matt Johnson, George Moala, Tamati Tua, TJ Faiane, Sonny Bill Williams.

                    Outside backs: Caleb Clarke, Michael Collins, Matt Duffie, Rieko Ioane, Melanie Nanai, Jordan Trainor.

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                      #104

                      Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                      Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                      Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                      Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

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                        #105

                        I don't get the props? Apparently Salmon is a tight head which means we have 4 tight heads and 2 loose? Maybe Salmon can play both?.. It would be a shame to expect Tu'ungafaasi to switch when he is just starting to fulfill his promise at tight head. Unless that is in the AB selectors plans for him. .

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          I don't get the props? Apparently Salmon is a tight head which means we have 4 tight heads and 2 loose? Maybe Salmon can play both?.. It would be a shame to expect Tu'ungafaasi to switch when he is just starting to fulfill his promise at tight head. Unless that is in the AB selectors plans for him. .

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                          @daffy-jaffy its much better than any prop rotation involving Sam Prattley. Addition by subtraction.

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                            How old is Salmon? Was he injured if both Halanukonuka and Lomax were played ahead of him?

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                              How old is Salmon? Was he injured if both Halanukonuka and Lomax were played ahead of him?

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                              @bovidae 21 years old. He was only an NPC rookie this year I believe.

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                                #109

                                Hopefully Dan Kirkpatrick can recapture his U20 form....

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Likely XXIII:

                                  1. Hodgman
                                  2. Parsons
                                  3. Tu'ungafasi
                                  4. Tuipulotu
                                  5. Scrafton
                                  6. Kaino
                                  7. Gibson
                                  8. Ioane
                                  9. Pulu
                                  10. Perofeta
                                    -- now the speculation starts --
                                  11. Ioane
                                  12. Faiane
                                  13. SBW
                                  14. Nanai
                                  15. Duffie
                                    -- reserves are more predictable --
                                  16. Moulds
                                  17. Manu
                                  18. Tamoaieta
                                  19. Cowley-Tuioti
                                  20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
                                  21. Nock
                                  22. Gatland
                                  23. Moala

                                  Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

                                  I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

                                  Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

                                  Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

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                                  Dice
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                                  @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                  Likely XXIII:

                                  1. Hodgman
                                  2. Parsons
                                  3. Tu'ungafasi
                                  4. Tuipulotu
                                  5. Scrafton
                                  6. Kaino
                                  7. Gibson
                                  8. Ioane
                                  9. Pulu
                                  10. Perofeta
                                    -- now the speculation starts --
                                  11. Ioane
                                  12. Faiane
                                  13. SBW
                                  14. Nanai
                                  15. Duffie
                                    -- reserves are more predictable --
                                  16. Moulds
                                  17. Manu
                                  18. Tamoaieta
                                  19. Cowley-Tuioti
                                  20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
                                  21. Nock
                                  22. Gatland
                                  23. Moala

                                  Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

                                  I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

                                  Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

                                  Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

                                  That is pretty close to being spot on.

                                  Papali'i ticks all the boxes for the backrow bench role. He plays all the backrow positions and is a good line-out option.

                                  That midfield was what I wanted to see this year, but it never got any time. I do wonder if Tana is willing to shift SBW out one.

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                                    This is a fantastic example of a quality 1st XV, on paper at least, but plenty of potential for disaster as soon as this XV is eroded away.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                      Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                      Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                      Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

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                                      @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                      Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                      Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                      Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                      Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

                                      I thought they had done away with the WTG ?

                                      They can just contract cover players for injury as and when required, and sign promising players to development contracts?

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                                        @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                        Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                        Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                        Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                        Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

                                        I thought they had done away with the WTG ?

                                        They can just contract cover players for injury as and when required, and sign promising players to development contracts?

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                                        Tim
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                                        @number-10 Yeah, should probably have said development squad.

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                                          @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                          Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                          Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                          Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                          Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

                                          I thought they had done away with the WTG ?

                                          They can just contract cover players for injury as and when required, and sign promising players to development contracts?

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                                          Steven Harris
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                                          #114

                                          @number-10

                                          Totally agree regarding Kirkpatrick,bloody average,we let Ihaia West go for this cart horse..?,would have taken Jade Te Rure from the Turbos,even Turbo fans have told me he's better than Otere Black..!
                                          And who the hell is Isaac Salmon..?..

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