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Blues 2018

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @tim although Bond would be a good option too, very good tight lock!

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    @taniwharugby With any luck, Goodhue will step up too.

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    • TimT Tim

      @taniwharugby With any luck, Goodhue will step up too.

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      taniwharugby
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      @tim yeah he started to really step up this year, missed a couple of easy tackles going for the big hits, but throws himself about and when our dysfunctional lineout was functioing, it was usually with him there.

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      • TimT Tim

        Likely XXIII:

        1. Hodgman
        2. Parsons
        3. Tu'ungafasi
        4. Tuipulotu
        5. Scrafton
        6. Kaino
        7. Gibson
        8. Ioane
        9. Pulu
        10. Perofeta
          -- now the speculation starts --
        11. Ioane
        12. Faiane
        13. SBW
        14. Nanai
        15. Duffie
          -- reserves are more predictable --
        16. Moulds
        17. Manu
        18. Tamoaieta
        19. Cowley-Tuioti
        20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
        21. Nock
        22. Gatland
        23. Moala

        Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

        I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

        Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

        Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

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        @tim said in Blues 2018:

        Likely XXIII:

        1. Hodgman
        2. Parsons
        3. Tu'ungafasi
        4. Tuipulotu
        5. Scrafton
        6. Kaino
        7. Gibson
        8. Ioane
        9. Pulu
        10. Perofeta
          -- now the speculation starts --
        11. Ioane
        12. Faiane
        13. SBW
        14. Nanai
        15. Duffie
          -- reserves are more predictable --
        16. Moulds
        17. Manu
        18. Tamoaieta
        19. Cowley-Tuioti
        20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
        21. Nock
        22. Gatland
        23. Moala

        Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

        I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

        Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

        Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

        Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

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          @tim said in Blues 2018:

          Likely XXIII:

          1. Hodgman
          2. Parsons
          3. Tu'ungafasi
          4. Tuipulotu
          5. Scrafton
          6. Kaino
          7. Gibson
          8. Ioane
          9. Pulu
          10. Perofeta
            -- now the speculation starts --
          11. Ioane
          12. Faiane
          13. SBW
          14. Nanai
          15. Duffie
            -- reserves are more predictable --
          16. Moulds
          17. Manu
          18. Tamoaieta
          19. Cowley-Tuioti
          20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
          21. Nock
          22. Gatland
          23. Moala

          Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

          I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

          Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

          Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

          Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

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          @cgrant I was going to put him at 23, but then I felt a momentary hopefulness.

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            #101

            Ezekiel Lindenmuth is a possibility at loosehead.

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            • TimT Tim

              Ezekiel Lindenmuth is a possibility at loosehead.

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              cgrant
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              @tim
              Still a bit too young but a fine prospect. Hodgman should have a great SR season and earn an AB call. His scrummaging has improved a lot since the BIL tour and he is one of the most effective props in NZ at clearing rucks.

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                The 2018 Blues squad is:

                Hookers: Leni Apisai, Matt Moulds, James Parsons.

                Front row: Alex Hodgman, Sione Mafileo, Pauliasi Manu, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Ofa Tuungafasi.

                Locks: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Josh Goodhue, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jimmy Tupou

                Loose forwards: Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Dalton Papalii, Glenn Preston, Kara Pryor, Murphy Taramai.

                Halfbacks: Sam Nock, Augustine Puli, Jonathan Ruru.

                First Five: Otere Black/Daniel Kirkpatrick, Bryn Gatland, Stephen Perofeta.

                Midfield: Matt Johnson, George Moala, Tamati Tua, TJ Faiane, Sonny Bill Williams.

                Outside backs: Caleb Clarke, Michael Collins, Matt Duffie, Rieko Ioane, Melanie Nanai, Jordan Trainor.

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                  #104

                  Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                  Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                  Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                  Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

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                    #105

                    I don't get the props? Apparently Salmon is a tight head which means we have 4 tight heads and 2 loose? Maybe Salmon can play both?.. It would be a shame to expect Tu'ungafaasi to switch when he is just starting to fulfill his promise at tight head. Unless that is in the AB selectors plans for him. .

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      I don't get the props? Apparently Salmon is a tight head which means we have 4 tight heads and 2 loose? Maybe Salmon can play both?.. It would be a shame to expect Tu'ungafaasi to switch when he is just starting to fulfill his promise at tight head. Unless that is in the AB selectors plans for him. .

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                      #106

                      @daffy-jaffy its much better than any prop rotation involving Sam Prattley. Addition by subtraction.

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                        #107

                        How old is Salmon? Was he injured if both Halanukonuka and Lomax were played ahead of him?

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          How old is Salmon? Was he injured if both Halanukonuka and Lomax were played ahead of him?

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                          @bovidae 21 years old. He was only an NPC rookie this year I believe.

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                            #109

                            Hopefully Dan Kirkpatrick can recapture his U20 form....

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Likely XXIII:

                              1. Hodgman
                              2. Parsons
                              3. Tu'ungafasi
                              4. Tuipulotu
                              5. Scrafton
                              6. Kaino
                              7. Gibson
                              8. Ioane
                              9. Pulu
                              10. Perofeta
                                -- now the speculation starts --
                              11. Ioane
                              12. Faiane
                              13. SBW
                              14. Nanai
                              15. Duffie
                                -- reserves are more predictable --
                              16. Moulds
                              17. Manu
                              18. Tamoaieta
                              19. Cowley-Tuioti
                              20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
                              21. Nock
                              22. Gatland
                              23. Moala

                              Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

                              I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

                              Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

                              Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

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                              Dice
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                              #110

                              @tim said in Blues 2018:

                              Likely XXIII:

                              1. Hodgman
                              2. Parsons
                              3. Tu'ungafasi
                              4. Tuipulotu
                              5. Scrafton
                              6. Kaino
                              7. Gibson
                              8. Ioane
                              9. Pulu
                              10. Perofeta
                                -- now the speculation starts --
                              11. Ioane
                              12. Faiane
                              13. SBW
                              14. Nanai
                              15. Duffie
                                -- reserves are more predictable --
                              16. Moulds
                              17. Manu
                              18. Tamoaieta
                              19. Cowley-Tuioti
                              20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
                              21. Nock
                              22. Gatland
                              23. Moala

                              Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

                              I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

                              Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

                              Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

                              That is pretty close to being spot on.

                              Papali'i ticks all the boxes for the backrow bench role. He plays all the backrow positions and is a good line-out option.

                              That midfield was what I wanted to see this year, but it never got any time. I do wonder if Tana is willing to shift SBW out one.

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                                This is a fantastic example of a quality 1st XV, on paper at least, but plenty of potential for disaster as soon as this XV is eroded away.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                  Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                  Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                  Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

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                                  #112

                                  @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                  Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                  Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                  Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                  Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

                                  I thought they had done away with the WTG ?

                                  They can just contract cover players for injury as and when required, and sign promising players to development contracts?

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                                    @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                    Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                    Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                    Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                    Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

                                    I thought they had done away with the WTG ?

                                    They can just contract cover players for injury as and when required, and sign promising players to development contracts?

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                                    Tim
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                                    @number-10 Yeah, should probably have said development squad.

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                                      @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                      Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

                                      Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

                                      Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

                                      Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

                                      I thought they had done away with the WTG ?

                                      They can just contract cover players for injury as and when required, and sign promising players to development contracts?

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                                      Steven Harris
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                                      #114

                                      @number-10

                                      Totally agree regarding Kirkpatrick,bloody average,we let Ihaia West go for this cart horse..?,would have taken Jade Te Rure from the Turbos,even Turbo fans have told me he's better than Otere Black..!
                                      And who the hell is Isaac Salmon..?..

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                                        Isaac Salmon is a tighthead for Ta$man

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                                        • DiceD Dice

                                          @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                          Likely XXIII:

                                          1. Hodgman
                                          2. Parsons
                                          3. Tu'ungafasi
                                          4. Tuipulotu
                                          5. Scrafton
                                          6. Kaino
                                          7. Gibson
                                          8. Ioane
                                          9. Pulu
                                          10. Perofeta
                                            -- now the speculation starts --
                                          11. Ioane
                                          12. Faiane
                                          13. SBW
                                          14. Nanai
                                          15. Duffie
                                            -- reserves are more predictable --
                                          16. Moulds
                                          17. Manu
                                          18. Tamoaieta
                                          19. Cowley-Tuioti
                                          20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
                                          21. Nock
                                          22. Gatland
                                          23. Moala

                                          Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

                                          I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

                                          Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

                                          Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

                                          That is pretty close to being spot on.

                                          Papali'i ticks all the boxes for the backrow bench role. He plays all the backrow positions and is a good line-out option.

                                          That midfield was what I wanted to see this year, but it never got any time. I do wonder if Tana is willing to shift SBW out one.

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                                          @dice said in Blues 2018:

                                          Papali'i ticks all the boxes for the backrow bench role. He plays all the backrow positions and is a good line-out option.

                                          I didn't realise that he was 113kg. In that case, he should be a good option at 6 and 8 too. There's a big discrepancy between his Auckland and Blues stats though ...

                                          Blues: 193 cm, 113 kg.
                                          Auckland: 190 cm, 104 kg.

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