Blues 2018

Tim

@daffy-jaffy Would expect to see Mike Tamoaieta selected at tighthead? With Marcel Renata in the WTS?

Daffy Jaffy

@tim Tamoaieta started ahead of Mafaleo all season which says something, although I thought his fitness and scrummaging were found out a bit towards the end of the season by more experienced props. But with full time training and coaching he could be good. I like Renata's energy around the field and he is always near the top of tackle counts. However his scrummaging is a major work on and a risk at super level. This Maori tour should be good for him. Would love to get Fahamokoia out of Wellington for loose head. He would be great off the bench. Love those Tongan props. I heard a while ago that Angus Ta'avao did not have a contract. He would bring experience and his scrummaging has been more consistant since being with Taranaki.

Daffy Jaffy

@tim Don't know that sorry, seems likely though.

KiwiMurph

@rocky-rockbottom Exactly this. I really hope this is true. He just straight up is not up to it.

Tim

If the Blues "past players" page is accurate, then the following 34 players are confirmed. Squads can be up to 38 + injury cover + WTG.

Props

Pauliasi Manu
Alex Hodgman
Ofa Tu'ungafasi
Sione Mafileo

Hooker

James Parsons
Matt Moulds
Leni Apisai

Lock

Patrick Tuipulotu
Scott Scrafton
Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
Josh Goodhue

Loose Forward

Blake Gibson (7)
Jerome Kaino (6,8)
Akira Ioane (6,8)
Jimmy Tupou (6, lock)
Dalton Papali'i (6, 7)
Kara Pryor (7)
Murphy Taramai (6,7,8)

Halfback

Augustine Pulu
Sam Nock
Jonathan Ruru

1st 5

Stephen Perofeta
Otere Black
Bryn Gatland

Midfield

SBW
George Moala
Rieko Ioane
T.J. Faiane
Matty Johnson

Wing/Fullback

Matt Duffie
Melani Nanai
Michael Collins
Jordan Trainor
Caleb Clarke

Out

Charlie Faumaina
Steven Luatua
Ihaia West
Piers Francis
Rene Ranger
Sam Prattley
Billy Guyton
Declan O'Donnell
Branden Nansen
Matt Vaega

This leaves four players + 1st 5 injury cover to be named. The four are probably a loosehead prop, a tighthead prop, a lock, and a loose forward. Maybe another back in place of lock/loose-forward.

My guesses: Ross Wright (prefer Chris Eves) and Mike Tamoaieta for the props, and Marty McKenzie for replacement 10. Lock and loose-forward I have no idea. For lock I guess Robinson and Frizell might be options. Manihera or Moala-Liava'a at 8.

Tim

Likely XXIII:

Hodgman
Parsons
Tu'ungafasi
Tuipulotu
Scrafton
Kaino
Gibson
Ioane
Pulu
Perofeta
-- now the speculation starts --
Ioane
Faiane
SBW
Nanai
Duffie
-- reserves are more predictable --
Moulds
Manu
Tamoaieta
Cowley-Tuioti
Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
Nock
Gatland
Moala

Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

Daffy Jaffy

@tim Tom Robinson may be the 5th lock and my choice for 1st/5 cover would be Jade Te Rure. Just compared Vaega and Johnson's stats for the Mitre 10 and Johnson's stack up pretty well. He made 12 clean breaks to Vaega's 15 with much less game time and in a struggling team. Defense seems to be Vaega's major work on at only 73% (missed 22 tackles), although Johnsons was not perfect at 82%.

Tim

@daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2018:

Tom Robinson

Ah, that's who I meant, not Bond.

taniwharugby

@tim although Bond would be a good option too, very good tight lock!

Tim

@taniwharugby With any luck, Goodhue will step up too.

taniwharugby

@tim yeah he started to really step up this year, missed a couple of easy tackles going for the big hits, but throws himself about and when our dysfunctional lineout was functioing, it was usually with him there.

cgrant

@tim said in Blues 2018:

Likely XXIII:

Hodgman

Parsons

Tu'ungafasi

Tuipulotu

Scrafton

Kaino

Gibson

Ioane

Pulu

Perofeta
-- now the speculation starts --

Ioane

Faiane

SBW

Nanai

Duffie
-- reserves are more predictable --

Moulds

Manu

Tamoaieta

Cowley-Tuioti

Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai

Nock

Gatland

Moala

Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

Tim

@cgrant I was going to put him at 23, but then I felt a momentary hopefulness.

Tim

Ezekiel Lindenmuth is a possibility at loosehead.

cgrant

@tim
Still a bit too young but a fine prospect. Hodgman should have a great SR season and earn an AB call. His scrummaging has improved a lot since the BIL tour and he is one of the most effective props in NZ at clearing rucks.

KiwiMurph

The 2018 Blues squad is:

Hookers: Leni Apisai, Matt Moulds, James Parsons.

Front row: Alex Hodgman, Sione Mafileo, Pauliasi Manu, Isaac Salmon, Mike Tamoaieta, Ofa Tuungafasi.

Locks: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Josh Goodhue, Scott Scrafton, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jimmy Tupou

Loose forwards: Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Dalton Papalii, Glenn Preston, Kara Pryor, Murphy Taramai.

Halfbacks: Sam Nock, Augustine Puli, Jonathan Ruru.

First Five: Otere Black/Daniel Kirkpatrick, Bryn Gatland, Stephen Perofeta.

Midfield: Matt Johnson, George Moala, Tamati Tua, TJ Faiane, Sonny Bill Williams.

Outside backs: Caleb Clarke, Michael Collins, Matt Duffie, Rieko Ioane, Melanie Nanai, Jordan Trainor.

Tim

Good to see Tua there. Looks like they've focused on work-rate for loose forwards. Could do with another ball carrier in there.

Kirkpatrick is an absolute joke. Really hope he sees zero game time.

Wider Training Group might be important for cover at 8, lock, wing, and when Kirkpatrick is dumped.

Hope Gibson isn't out for long!

Daffy Jaffy

I don't get the props? Apparently Salmon is a tight head which means we have 4 tight heads and 2 loose? Maybe Salmon can play both?.. It would be a shame to expect Tu'ungafaasi to switch when he is just starting to fulfill his promise at tight head. Unless that is in the AB selectors plans for him. .

KiwiMurph

@daffy-jaffy its much better than any prop rotation involving Sam Prattley. Addition by subtraction.

Bovidae

How old is Salmon? Was he injured if both Halanukonuka and Lomax were played ahead of him?

The Silver Fern

Blues 2018