Exodus
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@Crucial said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.
It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.
Got any stats to back up that claim?
I'm thinking no, if this is anything to go by.
http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=8;type=team
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@Bones Impressive stats for McCaw, cloak or no cloak. 148 matches in the back row and only 3 yellows. Hats off.
@Catogrande said in Exodus 2019:
@Bones Impressive stats for McCaw, cloak or no cloak. 148 matches in the back row and only 3 yellows. Hats off.
Probably inversely as unimpressive is Beauds, especially when you look at the fact not far below half of those caps are off the bench.
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@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Squire no loss. Frizzell and Hemopo already probably better players.
Said it before, will say it again. ABs World Cup back row: 6 Kieran Read, 7 Sam Cane , 8 Akira Ioane. Impact from the bench Scott Barrett and Ardie Savea.
I'll have some of what you're smoking
Personally, I prefer books and booze.
England have radically altered their back row in recent games and look better for it. Akira is NZ's better version of Billy Vunipola. Test forward packs need four ball-carriers these days. Read could perform at 6 the sort of role Peter O'Mahony did so well for Ireland last year.
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Melani Nanai has signed for the Worcester Warriors and will join them at the end of Super Rugby.
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England have Billy Vunipola, Ireland have CJ Stander, France will soon have Jordan Joseph. The number 8 position is changing (in part to reflect defence patterns but also refereeing interpretations). Power is key. Akira has lots of it.
Changing their back row in World Cup year isn't causing England problems.
@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
England have Billy Vunipola, Ireland have CJ Stander, France will soon have Jordan Joseph. The number 8 position is changing (in part to reflect defence patterns but also refereeing interpretations). Power is key. Akira has lots of it.
Changing their back row in World Cup year isn't causing England problems.
sheeeesh. does old mate Louis Picamoles know he's been discarded?
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@Stargazer cant wait for all the Luatua-esque outrage...
@Tanifulla said in Exodus 2019:
@Stargazer cant wait for all the Luatua-esque outrage...
Won't happen, because he doesn't play for the Blues. :fishing_pole:
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Pro rugby players know fuck all about rugby outside of their bubble, which seems right from players I've talked to. Can bite them in the arse, when choosing a cashed up club to sign for
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/its-not-all-about-the-money-a-warning-for-european-bound-all-blacks -
Pro rugby players know fuck all about rugby outside of their bubble, which seems right from players I've talked to. Can bite them in the arse, when choosing a cashed up club to sign for
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/its-not-all-about-the-money-a-warning-for-european-bound-all-blacks@Machpants that pretty much flies in the face of what Piutau and Sopoaga are apparently preaching...
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@Duluth said in Exodus 2019:
Not in this article on stuff, but reading the original media release, I see that Northland halfback Jono Kitto has also signed with Worcester Warriors (for a 2nd stint).
https://warriors.co.uk/2019/02/11/warriors-sign-scrum-half-kitto/
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seems a bit Chicken Little...
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With the Chiefs and NZ Sevens so impacted by injuries it was a surprise to see Bailey Simonsson not in consideration.... until one has a look at the Canberra Raiders squad-list. Presumably cover for fellow kiwi ex-union player Jordan Rapana.
Kinda sneaked under the radar, because it wasn't a French, UK or Japanese club announcing the signing...
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@Chester-Draws said in Exodus 2019:
@Chris-B
Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.
he'll come back heavy, worn out, and a bit shit.
@mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:
@Chester-Draws said in Exodus 2019:
@Chris-B
Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.
he'll come back heavy, worn out, and a bit shit.
Heavy worn out a bit shit and will still get an auto MOTM vote from me.
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With the Chiefs and NZ Sevens so impacted by injuries it was a surprise to see Bailey Simonsson not in consideration.... until one has a look at the Canberra Raiders squad-list. Presumably cover for fellow kiwi ex-union player Jordan Rapana.
Kinda sneaked under the radar, because it wasn't a French, UK or Japanese club announcing the signing...
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Official:
This will indeed be Kieran Read's last year playing in New Zealand. He will join Japanese club Toyota Verblitz next year.
http://www.allblacks.com/News/33799/read-confirms-2019-will-be-swansong-year-in-new-zealand
@Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:
Official:
This will indeed be Kieran Read's last year playing in New Zealand. He will join Japanese club Toyota Verblitz next year.
http://www.allblacks.com/News/33799/read-confirms-2019-will-be-swansong-year-in-new-zealand
Hopefully he can go out a champion in japan then
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Really didn’t anticipate that news about Read. Still in a state of shock.
