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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@MN5 In the previous Ep they said half of Dothraki & Unsullied - looked like there were handfuls left but I guess they were on the other side of Winterfell...
Plus some left at Dragonstone I'd guess?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
I find it funny the people complaining how easy it was for Dani to wipe out the golden company. That they were an anti climax, yet she was criticised for not using her dragons to lay waste to the wights and wipe them out before they were a threat at Winterfell..
Why were the Golden Company outside the walls of the castle? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a castle?
Line up here for the BBQ!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel not a normal castle, most would not be able to fit 10s of thousands of soldiers inside thier walls (although somehow Winterfell did)...as @Machpants mentioned earlier, KL is a bit different though.
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Don’t think the Golden Company was expecting to deal with the dragon. They would have assumed all the Scorpions and the Iron Fleet would take him down. They were only expecting a depleted northern force.
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@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Rancid-Schnitzel not a normal castle, most would not be able to fit 10s of thousands of soldiers inside thier walls (although somehow Winterfell did)...as @Machpants mentioned earlier, KL is a bit different though.
KL is a city and would easily be able to fit that many troops. Winterfell is tiny in comparison.
It's just lazy writing again, like the Dothraki advancing into the abyss. I can appreciate the logistical challenges this show faces, but damn they started phoning the scripts in after they couldn't copy the fat man's homework anymore.
Btw could the Dothraki have been on Dragonstone for any length of time? What did they feed the horses?
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@Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Don’t think the Golden Company was expecting to deal with the dragon. They would have assumed all the Scorpions and the Iron Fleet would take him down. They were only expecting a depleted northern force.
Not to be mowed down from behind with dragon fire.Even with a depleted Northern force, I'm not sure if it's normal to just walk out to face them. They could rain death down from those walls.
The ballisters were also dramatically less effective. Glitch in the weapons system maybe.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Btw could the Dothraki have been on Dragonstone for any length of time? What did they feed the horses?
Don't even start on logistics, where was the wood for all the insta-boats from the Greyjoys? The march from WF to KL is ~500 leagues, that's 2.5 months of walking at Roman Legion pace. etc
Magic, as someone wise once said!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Don’t think the Golden Company was expecting to deal with the dragon. They would have assumed all the Scorpions and the Iron Fleet would take him down. They were only expecting a depleted northern force.
Not to be mowed down from behind with dragon fire.Even with a depleted Northern force, I'm not sure if it's normal to just walk out to face them. They could rain death down from those walls.
The ballisters were also dramatically less effective. Glitch in the weapons system maybe.
Yeah clearly the Iron fleet went on the piss to celebrate shooting a dragon down last week and completely lost the ability to shoot straight the next day.....
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Btw could the Dothraki have been on Dragonstone for any length of time? What did they feed the horses?
Don't even start on logistics, where was the wood for all the insta-boats from the Greyjoys? The march from WF to KL is ~500 leagues, that's 2.5 months of walking at Roman Legion pace. etc
Magic, as someone wise once said!
Yeah it was a real piss take when they started teleporting these guys around Westeros at record speed. And then of course there was Roose Bolton marrying Sansa (wanted in KL for killing the King) to Ramsay with narry a murmur from Cersei and outraged Red Wedding Walder Frey being unmoved by his daughter and grandson being used as Pal puppy food. But they could get away with it because clearly not enough people cared. Fair enough I guess. Still disappointing, because the early seasons are probably the best TV series we're probably ever likely to see. Absolutely brilliant.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel yeah I mentioned KL was different...but go back in history, armies were often camped outside the walls to fight the battle for the Lords directing things from the relative safety inside the walls.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Btw could the Dothraki have been on Dragonstone for any length of time? What did they feed the horses?
Don't even start on logistics, where was the wood for all the insta-boats from the Greyjoys? The march from WF to KL is ~500 leagues, that's 2.5 months of walking at Roman Legion pace. etc
Magic, as someone wise once said!
Yeah it was a real piss take when they started teleporting these guys around Westeros at record speed. And then of course there was Roose Bolton marrying Sansa (wanted in KL for killing the King) to Ramsay with narry a murmur from Cersei and outraged Red Wedding Walder Frey being unmoved by his daughter and grandson being used as Pal puppy food. But they could get away with it because clearly not enough people cared. Fair enough I guess. Still disappointing, because the early seasons are probably the best TV series we're probably ever likely to see. Absolutely brilliant.
I'm fairly sure that over how many seasons we've had there has been some pretty massive inconsistencies with how long it takes to get from Kings Landing all the way to WInterfell. The Hound and Arya left after the army but got there about the same time didn't they ?
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@MN5 two people on horseback travel much faster (like 3 times) than an army. Esp if the army is going through friendly territory and cannot live of the land total (ie pillage) and have to take supplies with them in slow slow wagons (as mentioned in Season 1 with Cersei's wagon)
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@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Rancid-Schnitzel yeah I mentioned KL was different...but go back in history, armies were often camped outside the walls to fight the battle for the Lords directing things from the relative safety inside the walls.
Can you name some? Not attacking you just interested in reading about
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@MN5 two people on horseback travel much faster (like 3 times) than an army. Esp if the army is going through friendly territory and cannot live of the land total (ie pillage) and have to take supplies with them in slow slow wagons (as mentioned in Season 1 with Cersei's wagon)
Yeah probably true, I just assume the Dothraki go hell for leather the whole way.
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@Machpants some of those in the War of the Roses had attacks on Castles with troops camped outside.
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@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Rancid-Schnitzel yeah I mentioned KL was different...but go back in history, armies were often camped outside the walls to fight the battle for the Lords directing things from the relative safety inside the walls.
I'm no expert, but my understanding was that the forces remained inside the city walls when it was besieged. I guess it all depends on the size of the castle and strength of the defences. It should also be noted that in the first season, KL could apparently only be taken by sea. Now you can lead your army to the gates and they'll happily come out and meet you.
