2020 All Blacks Squad
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I really like Ennor, but I cannot see how he can break into the AB's this year short of some significant injuries. His point of difference is that he can play both wings, fullback and centre. Being able to play both wings is handy but not that rare. But centre is one of the challenging positions in the game, and being able to play 13 as well is a valuable trait.
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
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2020 looking exciting: lots of good Props, all the Hookers re-signed, Whitelock and Cane available as captains, a plethora of backline talent.
Two major areas for development:
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The lineout. With Retallick and Read unavailable and Whitelock probably needing a rest after the Japanese season, the lineout will need reconstruction.
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Who plays 8? If it is Ardie then who plays 6?
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@cgrant Luke Jacobsen isn't a starter for the Chiefs. He's not going to make the ABs.
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
You're already on the Blues coaching staff, Tana
Edit: but seriously, it's possible in the future. Short term I think we just let him concentrate on getting back to being the best winger in the world
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
Think Goodhue is more of a classic 13 in the shape of Conrad Smith than a 12.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Laumape developing his skills a la Nonu and partnering him long term. He might not make the RWC2019 cut but he gets excellent reviews from the TWM on his attitude and work ethic and the def. think he has a future in Black.
I'm not convinced that Alby is a 12 right now and seems to play his best games at 13
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Always difficult to pick future teams, form fluctuations, and as we see so often in Nz , freak talent emerges from nowhere and we ( or I do based overseas ) think where did this guy come from.
I’d be inclined to leave goodhue at 13, agree with the thoughts, natural 13s are difficult to find .
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Danny Toala for the 12 jersey. You heard it here first! :smiling_face_with_halo:
Can Jonah Lowe not cover 12?
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Danny Toala for the 12 jersey. You heard it here first! :smiling_face_with_halo:
Can Jonah Lowe not cover 12?
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@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
It is just because Robertson has used this combo this year and with Jordan, Fainganuuku, Bridge, Reece and Mateale in his squad, I guess he will play Ennor in midfield, with the 13 jersey. This is not my wish, it's a guess. BTW, Goodhue has played very well a few times as a 2nd Five for Northland.
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@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
It is just because Robertson has used this combo this year and with Jordan, Fainganuuku, Bridge, Reece and Mateale in his squad, I guess he will play Ennor in midfield, with the 13 jersey. This is not my wish, it's a guess. BTW, Goodhue has played very well a few times as a 2nd Five for Northland.
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@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant James Blackwell is VG at lock in the NPC.
He goes ok for Petone as well if that is a further endorsement.
@Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant James Blackwell is VG at lock in the NPC.
He goes ok for Petone as well if that is a further endorsement.
Well in that case, Cam Incledon strikes me as a bloody good utility for the RWC squad.
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Possible All Blacks extended squad 2020
Loosehead props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Atu Moli
Tighthead props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Angus Ta'avao
Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris,
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Scott Barrett, Pari Pari Parkinson. (Perhaps Isaia Walker-Leawere or Quinten Strange)
Back Row: Luke Jacobson, Vaea Fifita, Dalton Papalii, Shannon Frizzell (has he re-signed?), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Akira Ioane, Blake Gibson
Half Backs: TJP, Aaron Smith, Brad Weber
First Fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett, Josh Ioane
Midfield: Ngani Laumape, Josh Goodhue, Anton Leinert-Brown, Reiko Ioane,
Back Three (some of these will play Olympic 7s): Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie,Will Jordan, Braydon Ennor, Leicester Fainga'anuku, David Havili, Caleb Clarke, Josh McKayBound to be others I didn't think about or don't know about.
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Possible All Blacks extended squad 2020
Loosehead props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Atu Moli
Tighthead props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Angus Ta'avao
Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris,
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Scott Barrett, Pari Pari Parkinson. (Perhaps Isaia Walker-Leawere or Quinten Strange)
Back Row: Luke Jacobson, Vaea Fifita, Dalton Papalii, Shannon Frizzell (has he re-signed?), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Akira Ioane, Blake Gibson
Half Backs: TJP, Aaron Smith, Brad Weber
First Fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett, Josh Ioane
Midfield: Ngani Laumape, Josh Goodhue, Anton Leinert-Brown, Reiko Ioane,
Back Three (some of these will play Olympic 7s): Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie,Will Jordan, Braydon Ennor, Leicester Fainga'anuku, David Havili, Caleb Clarke, Josh McKayBound to be others I didn't think about or don't know about.
@sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Possible All Blacks extended squad 2020
Loosehead props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Atu Moli
Tighthead props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Angus Ta'avao
Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris,
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Scott Barrett, Pari Pari Parkinson. (Perhaps Isaia Walker-Leawere or Quinten Strange)
Back Row: Luke Jacobson, Vaea Fifita, Dalton Papalii, Shannon Frizzell (has he re-signed?), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Akira Ioane, Blake Gibson
Half Backs: TJP, Aaron Smith, Brad Weber
First Fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett, Josh Ioane
Midfield: Ngani Laumape, Josh Goodhue, Anton Leinert-Brown, Reiko Ioane,
Back Three (some of these will play Olympic 7s): Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie,Will Jordan, Braydon Ennor, Leicester Fainga'anuku, David Havili, Caleb Clarke, Josh McKayBound to be others I didn't think about or don't know about.
Hard not to recognise how much BBBR will be missed!
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Possible All Blacks extended squad 2020
Loosehead props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Atu Moli
Tighthead props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Angus Ta'avao
Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris,
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Scott Barrett, Pari Pari Parkinson. (Perhaps Isaia Walker-Leawere or Quinten Strange)
Back Row: Luke Jacobson, Vaea Fifita, Dalton Papalii, Shannon Frizzell (has he re-signed?), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Akira Ioane, Blake Gibson
Half Backs: TJP, Aaron Smith, Brad Weber
First Fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett, Josh Ioane
Midfield: Ngani Laumape, Josh Goodhue, Anton Leinert-Brown, Reiko Ioane,
Back Three (some of these will play Olympic 7s): Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie,Will Jordan, Braydon Ennor, Leicester Fainga'anuku, David Havili, Caleb Clarke, Josh McKayBound to be others I didn't think about or don't know about.
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@sparky Alex Nankivell is worth watching as a midfield option - he's become a very good player over the past 12 months.
