2020 All Blacks Squad
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@KiwiMurph said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@gt12 exactly.
Young Kaino was a serious athlete.
I believe it was 2004 on debut ABs v Barbarians at Twickenham that Kaino went in and around Mat Rogers to score?
Hang on am I reading this right ? In order to become a great blindside you have to lose your athleticism?
@MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@KiwiMurph said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@gt12 exactly.
Young Kaino was a serious athlete.
I believe it was 2004 on debut ABs v Barbarians at Twickenham that Kaino went in and around Mat Rogers to score?
Hang on am I reading this right ? In order to become a great blindside you have to lose your athleticism?
If thats the case I would have been a superlative blindside.
I think you read it wrong.
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@MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@KiwiMurph said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@gt12 exactly.
Young Kaino was a serious athlete.
I believe it was 2004 on debut ABs v Barbarians at Twickenham that Kaino went in and around Mat Rogers to score?
Hang on am I reading this right ? In order to become a great blindside you have to lose your athleticism?
If thats the case I would have been a superlative blindside.
I think you read it wrong.
@jegga said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@KiwiMurph said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@gt12 exactly.
Young Kaino was a serious athlete.
I believe it was 2004 on debut ABs v Barbarians at Twickenham that Kaino went in and around Mat Rogers to score?
Hang on am I reading this right ? In order to become a great blindside you have to lose your athleticism?
If thats the case I would have been a superlative blindside.
I think you read it wrong.
Well no I’m not. Apparently you can’t be tough and an athlete at the same time.
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@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Chester-Draws Kaino was an athlete type player.
No he wasn't. He wasn't fast (compared to young Messam he was slow). He wasn't fabulous in the air, winning strings of lineouts and kickoffs. He wasn't nimble. When you think of him, what special athletic powers did he have others striving for his position don't?
He was a hard man who hit hard and made few mistakes. He was fit. He had a bit of explosive power, but it didn't translate into many line breaks, for instance.
No-one doubts his worth. But he was no more naturally athletic than any of his competitors.
@Chester-Draws yeah but nah, incorrect. You're missing a fair chunk of his career as others have politely pointed out.
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@sparky You've been watching too many "Friends"re-runs!
Regain control of your Television!
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@Chris-B It was more an issue of confusing Crusaders Prop Tim Perry with the former Bath, England and Lions fullback than with the Canadian actor who played Chandler Bing :
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Ennor an All Black in 2020, if not before.
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I really like Ennor, but I cannot see how he can break into the AB's this year short of some significant injuries. His point of difference is that he can play both wings, fullback and centre. Being able to play both wings is handy but not that rare. But centre is one of the challenging positions in the game, and being able to play 13 as well is a valuable trait.
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
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2020 looking exciting: lots of good Props, all the Hookers re-signed, Whitelock and Cane available as captains, a plethora of backline talent.
Two major areas for development:
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The lineout. With Retallick and Read unavailable and Whitelock probably needing a rest after the Japanese season, the lineout will need reconstruction.
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Who plays 8? If it is Ardie then who plays 6?
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@cgrant Luke Jacobsen isn't a starter for the Chiefs. He's not going to make the ABs.
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
You're already on the Blues coaching staff, Tana
Edit: but seriously, it's possible in the future. Short term I think we just let him concentrate on getting back to being the best winger in the world
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With Reece and Bridge probably securing a seat for Japan, and with the likes of Leicester Fainganuuku and Will Jordan looming, the All Blacks will have plenty of options in the wings. That is why I'd like Rieko Ioane to become a centre as Goodhue will likely play most of his games for the Crusaders next year as a 2nd five in order to let the 13 jersey to Ennor. A backline like this one could be deadly : B. Barrett - Reece - Ioane - Goodhue (or ALB) - Bridge - Mounga.
Think Goodhue is more of a classic 13 in the shape of Conrad Smith than a 12.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Laumape developing his skills a la Nonu and partnering him long term. He might not make the RWC2019 cut but he gets excellent reviews from the TWM on his attitude and work ethic and the def. think he has a future in Black.
I'm not convinced that Alby is a 12 right now and seems to play his best games at 13
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Always difficult to pick future teams, form fluctuations, and as we see so often in Nz , freak talent emerges from nowhere and we ( or I do based overseas ) think where did this guy come from.
I’d be inclined to leave goodhue at 13, agree with the thoughts, natural 13s are difficult to find .
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Danny Toala for the 12 jersey. You heard it here first! :smiling_face_with_halo:
Can Jonah Lowe not cover 12?
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Danny Toala for the 12 jersey. You heard it here first! :smiling_face_with_halo:
Can Jonah Lowe not cover 12?
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@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
It is just because Robertson has used this combo this year and with Jordan, Fainganuuku, Bridge, Reece and Mateale in his squad, I guess he will play Ennor in midfield, with the 13 jersey. This is not my wish, it's a guess. BTW, Goodhue has played very well a few times as a 2nd Five for Northland.
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@Bones said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant again with the Goodhue to 12 nonsense. Do you hate him? He's a brilliant centre. Outstanding, looking like following in Connie's footsteps. But sure put him at 12 to accommodate a guy who is an excellent winger.
Why wouldn't you just put Ennor at 12 if he's such a good midfielder?
It is just because Robertson has used this combo this year and with Jordan, Fainganuuku, Bridge, Reece and Mateale in his squad, I guess he will play Ennor in midfield, with the 13 jersey. This is not my wish, it's a guess. BTW, Goodhue has played very well a few times as a 2nd Five for Northland.
