RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

[MiketheSnow]

@Higgins said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

The worst is still yet to come. We still have to endure both Rattue and Reason!

And The Walrus

[DMX]

@cgrant said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

People in this forum are great fans of Richie Mounga. He's had a mare : missed an easy tackle on Daly who is not the quickest fullback nor the strongest one (this led to England's first try), then could not handle the English rush defence. Let's hope he'll learn from this very disappointing performance.
The Bounga experiment was clearly a failure with BB's kicking from hand being an issue. Would DMac have done better ?

I hate the loss but I hate these kind of posts after the loss even worse. No complaints about Bounga after Wallabies, South Africa or Ireland , now its a failure? Nothing to suggest any other available combo would have done better. Really did not think Ritchie was the problem.

[Kirwan]

@DMX said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@cgrant said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

People in this forum are great fans of Richie Mounga. He's had a mare : missed an easy tackle on Daly who is not the quickest fullback nor the strongest one (this led to England's first try), then could not handle the English rush defence. Let's hope he'll learn from this very disappointing performance.
The Bounga experiment was clearly a failure with BB's kicking from hand being an issue. Would DMac have done better ?

I hate the loss but I hate these kind of posts after the loss even worse. No complaints about Bounga after Wallabies, South Africa or Ireland , now its a failure? Nothing to suggest any other available combo would have done better. Really did not think Ritchie was the problem.

I think some people don’t read all the posts or gloss over a lot.

[BerniesCorner]

@cgrant Totally disagree on this. Not Richies fault .

[hydro11]

Barrett has always been crap against well-executed rush defence anyway. Would have been worse with him at first-five.

[Kirwan]

@hydro11 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Barrett has always been crap against well-executed rush defence anyway. Would have been worse with him at first-five.

At least he can tackle.

[broughie]

@cgrant I agree Mounga didn’t have a good game. BB, while exceptional at times at full back does not have the greatest kick on him or it deserted him last night. Moving forward Harvilli seems pretty solid at FB and maybe BB back to 1st five. Of course we can play our typical game against any other team with Bounga, except England, and probably win.

[Snowy]

@Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

One thing that would be really good going forward:

You could have stopped there really.

[cgrant]

I did not say that Richie's performance cost NZ the semi final, I just wanted to point out an experiment which did not find the right solutions against a pressuring defence. The main problem was with the forwards who were well outplayed.

[mariner4life]

@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Can we get a welfare check on @mariner4life?

Haven't watched the game. Was at a great party. Only just woke up.

[Frank]

@Kruse said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
What do I need to do to get beaten up in this country? I just want my body to feel like my mind does.

That's developed country Asia for ya.

[Snowy]

@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Can we get a welfare check on @mariner4life?

Haven't watched the game.

Don't.

[DMX]

And what the heck happened in the lineout? We had 4 decent lineout options to their 2 but we were totally misfiring?

[booboo]

@SammyC said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

No concerns with that loss. We were outplayed and Eddie Jones did his thing.

Never got the criticism of Itoje because he’s played like this before. Well done that man.

Look forward to seeing the ABs one more time against the Boks.

The criticism of Itoje is NZ rugby fan arrogance at its best.

I think it has been deserved previously.

... perhaps not now ...

[booboo]

@Godder said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Some of the ABs have cuts on their faces - is that likely to be dodgy play in the rucks or just bad luck?

Because rugby

[kiwiinmelb]

Far from an excuse because you have to back up week after week,

But I do think beating Ireland in the manner we did , when they had become our recent bogey team ,possibly had Us overall feeling A little too comfortable with things .

If there was a return game against England next week , things might be different , but world cups don’t work like that .

Emphasis on not an excuse, We should know better , but part of the failure

[booboo]

@Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Scoreline flattered us hugely. We were utter crap for 79 mins, basically.

Which was the 1 minute we weren't?

[hydro11]

@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@SammyC said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

No concerns with that loss. We were outplayed and Eddie Jones did his thing.

Never got the criticism of Itoje because he’s played like this before. Well done that man.

Look forward to seeing the ABs one more time against the Boks.

The criticism of Itoje is NZ rugby fan arrogance at its best.

I think it has been deserved previously.

... perhaps not now ...

Itoje has been on par with Retallick for the past three seasons.

[Mokey]

@booboo When Ardie scored. Couple of Goodhue runs, the odd decent tackle. That's about it for the good minute.

[canefan]

@Mokey said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@booboo When Ardie scored. Couple of Goodhue runs, the odd decent tackle. That's about it for the good minute.

Even when we scored the try wasn't off a concerted build up