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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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    It's funny how some people pick up that one paragraph in the article about not including Maori or PI members in the selection panel, or more women.

    The whole article is more an argument for including people from outside the NZR establishment. Reason would be that they might ask the candidates different questions, because they have different backgrounds. They'd think outside the box. I do agree with that and, for that reason, I think Waimarama Taumaunu is a good choice.

    Where the article becomes ridiculous is where Norquay suggests that Air New Zealand chief executive Rob Fyfe and - especially - My Food Bag entrepreneurs Nadia Lim and Theresa Gattung as panel members. Business leaders could be useful as members of the NZR board, but I don't see what they bring when selecting a head coach. Former ABs (or BFs) could be useful; experienced head coaches of other major sports teams as well. If one or more of those are Maori or PI that would be great, but it should be the sole reason for inviting them to sit on the panel.

    Apart from that, Norquay just sounds like an arrogant prick, who has a very simplistic view of sports coaching.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      It's funny how some people pick up that one paragraph in the article about not including Maori or PI members in the selection panel, or more women.

      The whole article is more an argument for including people from outside the NZR establishment. Reason would be that they might ask the candidates different questions, because they have different backgrounds. They'd think outside the box. I do agree with that and, for that reason, I think Waimarama Taumaunu is a good choice.

      Where the article becomes ridiculous is where Norquay suggests that Air New Zealand chief executive Rob Fyfe and - especially - My Food Bag entrepreneurs Nadia Lim and Theresa Gattung as panel members. Business leaders could be useful as members of the NZR board, but I don't see what they bring when selecting a head coach. Former ABs (or BFs) could be useful; experienced head coaches of other major sports teams as well. If one or more of those are Maori or PI that would be great, but it should be the sole reason for inviting them to sit on the panel.

      Apart from that, Norquay just sounds like an arrogant prick, who has a very simplistic view of sports coaching.

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      @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      arrogant prick, who has a very simplistic view of sports coaching

      if we are honest, that qualifies to be a regular poster here

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        arrogant prick, who has a very simplistic view of sports coaching

        if we are honest, that qualifies to be a regular poster here

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        @mariner4life

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          It's funny how some people pick up that one paragraph in the article about not including Maori or PI members in the selection panel, or more women.

          The whole article is more an argument for including people from outside the NZR establishment. Reason would be that they might ask the candidates different questions, because they have different backgrounds. They'd think outside the box. I do agree with that and, for that reason, I think Waimarama Taumaunu is a good choice.

          Where the article becomes ridiculous is where Norquay suggests that Air New Zealand chief executive Rob Fyfe and - especially - My Food Bag entrepreneurs Nadia Lim and Theresa Gattung as panel members. Business leaders could be useful as members of the NZR board, but I don't see what they bring when selecting a head coach. Former ABs (or BFs) could be useful; experienced head coaches of other major sports teams as well. If one or more of those are Maori or PI that would be great, but it should be the sole reason for inviting them to sit on the panel.

          Apart from that, Norquay just sounds like an arrogant prick, who has a very simplistic view of sports coaching.

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          @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          Where the article becomes ridiculous is where Norquay suggests that Air New Zealand chief executive Rob Fyfe and - especially - My Food Bag entrepreneurs Nadia Lim and Theresa Gattung as panel members. Business leaders could be useful as members of the NZR board, but I don't see what they bring when selecting a head coach. Former ABs (or BFs) could be useful; experienced head coaches of other major sports teams as well. If one or more of those are Maori or PI that would be great, but it should be the sole reason for inviting them to sit on the panel.

          If only NZR had the benefit of looking at boards comprised of skills outside of rugby to see how well they could be run, like the Blues for example...

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            It's funny how some people pick up that one paragraph in the article about not including Maori or PI members in the selection panel, or more women.

            The whole article is more an argument for including people from outside the NZR establishment. Reason would be that they might ask the candidates different questions, because they have different backgrounds. They'd think outside the box. I do agree with that and, for that reason, I think Waimarama Taumaunu is a good choice.

            Where the article becomes ridiculous is where Norquay suggests that Air New Zealand chief executive Rob Fyfe and - especially - My Food Bag entrepreneurs Nadia Lim and Theresa Gattung as panel members. Business leaders could be useful as members of the NZR board, but I don't see what they bring when selecting a head coach. Former ABs (or BFs) could be useful; experienced head coaches of other major sports teams as well. If one or more of those are Maori or PI that would be great, but it should be the sole reason for inviting them to sit on the panel.

            Apart from that, Norquay just sounds like an arrogant prick, who has a very simplistic view of sports coaching.

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            @Stargazer If you're having a five person panel, I'd want at least three from the rugby establishment- so at most you're swapping out one person for someone more diverse.

            I hope they don't put much weight on the formal interviews - I want someone who is a good coach, not someone who is good at interviews.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @Stargazer If you're having a five person panel, I'd want at least three from the rugby establishment- so at most you're swapping out one person for someone more diverse.

              I hope they don't put much weight on the formal interviews - I want someone who is a good coach, not someone who is good at interviews.

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              @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              I hope they don't put much weight on the formal interviews - I want someone who is a good coach, not someone who is good at interviews.

              That's how you end up with a guy like this

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                I hope they don't put much weight on the formal interviews - I want someone who is a good coach, not someone who is good at interviews.

                That's how you end up with a guy like this

                alt text

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                @canefan

                Careful - if Brett Impey forgets his spectacles he won't read the fine print and will count that as one vote for Hammer!

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                ...and now there's two! 🙂

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                  https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1194111818526003200

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1194111818526003200

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                    @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1194111818526003200

                    no fucking shit Aaron

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1194111818526003200

                      no fucking shit Aaron

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                      @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1194111818526003200

                      no fucking shit Aaron

                      At least he's self aware enough to recognise it.

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                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12284608&ref=rss

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                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12284803

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            Don't think John Mitchell has been approached. The job ad specifically says the NZRU are looking for the best and not a journeyman.

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                            @Billy-Tell said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            Don't think John Mitchell has been approached. The job ad specifically says the NZRU are looking for the best and not a journeyman.

                            Cueball only ever coached what he called "Development Teams" IIRC...

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                              Robertson mentioned he coached club sides.
                              What was his record like at that level?

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                              • FrankF Frank

                                Robertson mentioned he coached club sides.
                                What was his record like at that level?

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                                @Frank said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                Robertson mentioned he coached club sides.
                                What was his record like at that level?

                                Think he won Chch comp with a previously unfancied team (Sumner)

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                                  It's got to be Jamie Joseph. Just imagine the fast way Japan play, yet with more power. And equal passion. It matches the way the All Blacks should play, like an unstoppable swarm through the forwards, combined with big fast wings and FB, and with great all round backline skills that break open defences like a hot knife through butter.
                                  -kick catching, kicking for territory should be practiced to a higher level.

                                  Couldn't Rennie be involved as well, forwards coach, as well as talent spotter throughout the provinces?

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                                    I am wary of Robertson, becuse he does lack experience, and now is missing Tony Brown - I think that has hurt him cos he is now looking for someone to go with - not ideal. I really like the idea of him coming in as assistant with a view to taking over in 4 years, JJ with Tony B and Robertson I'd love + specialist coaches

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                                      I am wary of Robertson, becuse he does lack experience, and now is missing Tony Brown - I think that has hurt him cos he is now looking for someone to go with - not ideal. I really like the idea of him coming in as assistant with a view to taking over in 4 years, JJ with Tony B and Robertson I'd love + specialist coaches

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                                      @Machpants Except Robertson has said he isn't interested in being an assistant. He has limited his options by doing so.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Machpants Except Robertson has said he isn't interested in being an assistant. He has limited his options by doing so.

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                                        @Bovidae Oh I didn't realise he has ruled that out 😞

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                                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2019/11/rugby-scott-robertson-not-interested-in-all-blacks-assistant-role.html

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