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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

    The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

    Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

    I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
    I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

    It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

    That has implications for the captaincy

    Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

      The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

      Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

      I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
      I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

      It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

      That has implications for the captaincy

      Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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      @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

        @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

          @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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          @Daffy-Jaffy

          Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

          Maybe next year?

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            Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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              @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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              @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

              @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

              They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Daffy-Jaffy

                Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                Maybe next year?

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                @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                @Daffy-Jaffy

                Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                Maybe next year?

                Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                  BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                  The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                  Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                  Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                  Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                  Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                  Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                  Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                  Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                  Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                  Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                  Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                  Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                  Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                  Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                  Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                  Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                  Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                  Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                  Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                  Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                  Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                  Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                  Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                  Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                  Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                  Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                  Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                  Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                  Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                  Che Clarke – Kings College
                  Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                  Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                  Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                  Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                  Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                  Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                  Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                  Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                  Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                  Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                  Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                  Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                  PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                  Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                  Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                  Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                  Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                  Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                  Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                  Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                  Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                  John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                  Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                  Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                  Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                  Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                  Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                  Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                  Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                  Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                  Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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                    Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                      Some players to look out for in the Blues Colts or Dev Team:

                      Soane Vikena
                      Taufa Funaki
                      Zarn Sullivan
                      Lemeki Namoa
                      Rob Cobb

                      Freedom Vaha’akolo and AJ Lam are a couple of others.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                        @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                        Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                        @taniwharugby

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                          Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                          @taniwharugby

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                          @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                          @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                          Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                          @taniwharugby

                          Pretty sure he's too old.

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                            @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                            @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                            Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                            @taniwharugby

                            Pretty sure he's too old.

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                            Former blues and crusaders lossie brendon o Connor has signed with the sunwolves for 2020

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                              @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                              Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                              @taniwharugby

                              Pretty sure he's too old.

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                              @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

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                                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                                @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

                                Reckon you should contact Northampton they might be interested.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  So what's your first choice XXIII?

                                  1. Karl T
                                  2. Parsons
                                  3. Ofa T
                                  4. Tuipulotu
                                  5. Pierce
                                  6. Robinson
                                  7. Papalii
                                  8. Ioane
                                  9. Christie
                                  10. Barrett/Plummer
                                  11. Ioane
                                  12. Faiane
                                  13. Marchant
                                  14. Narawa
                                  15. Perofeta

                                  Reserves:

                                  1. Niuia
                                  2. Hodgman
                                  3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                                  4. Tucker/GCT
                                  5. Gibson
                                  6. Nock
                                  7. Tele'a/Plummer
                                  8. Duffie/Telea

                                  Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                                  @Tim By the sounds of things, Rieko will be the first choice 13. Marchant probably has to play on the wing at first. Like you, I'd prefer it the other way around.

                                  I wish we saw more of Narawa at fullback to see if he's a proper option there, but it was too small a sample to really say. In saying that, I don't want to break a talent like him, so play him on the wing to be safe.

                                  I'd have Sotutu on the bench ahead of Gibson. I'm not sure Gibson adds much as a bench option. Sotutu's also on his last year of his contract and we have to play him if we want to keep him longer. The way we barely used him last season, we're already on the back foot to retain him.

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                                  • DiceD Dice

                                    @Tim By the sounds of things, Rieko will be the first choice 13. Marchant probably has to play on the wing at first. Like you, I'd prefer it the other way around.

                                    I wish we saw more of Narawa at fullback to see if he's a proper option there, but it was too small a sample to really say. In saying that, I don't want to break a talent like him, so play him on the wing to be safe.

                                    I'd have Sotutu on the bench ahead of Gibson. I'm not sure Gibson adds much as a bench option. Sotutu's also on his last year of his contract and we have to play him if we want to keep him longer. The way we barely used him last season, we're already on the back foot to retain him.

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                                    Jonty lean
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                                    I'm pissed that they signed Tony Lamborn
                                    They could of signed mitch Jacobson instead

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                                      I'm pissed that they signed Tony Lamborn
                                      They could of signed mitch Jacobson instead

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                                      Steven Harris
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                                      @Jonty-lean totally agree, Mitch Jacobson would have been a much better fit, the other 7 who was a little stiff not to have picked up a contract was Slade McDowall from Otago..

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Some players to look out for in the Blues Colts or Dev Team:

                                        Soane Vikena
                                        Taufa Funaki
                                        Zarn Sullivan
                                        Lemeki Namoa
                                        Rob Cobb

                                        Freedom Vaha’akolo and AJ Lam are a couple of others.

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                                        Steven Harris
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                                        @Tim always been impressed with AJ Lam..really strong in contact

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                                          What's Jarred Adams up to in the Super Rugby season?

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