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Blues 2020

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  • TimT Tim

    So what's your first choice XXIII?

    1. Karl T
    2. Parsons
    3. Ofa T
    4. Tuipulotu
    5. Pierce
    6. Robinson
    7. Papalii
    8. Ioane
    9. Christie
    10. Barrett/Plummer
    11. Ioane
    12. Faiane
    13. Marchant
    14. Narawa
    15. Perofeta

    Reserves:

    1. Niuia
    2. Hodgman
    3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
    4. Tucker/GCT
    5. Gibson
    6. Nock
    7. Tele'a/Plummer
    8. Duffie/Telea

    Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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    @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

    Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

      @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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      @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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        @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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        @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

          @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

          The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

          Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

          I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
          I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

          It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

          That has implications for the captaincy

          Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

            The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

            Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

            I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
            I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

            It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

            That has implications for the captaincy

            Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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            @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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              @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                @Daffy-Jaffy

                Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                Maybe next year?

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                  Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                    @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                    They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Daffy-Jaffy

                      Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                      Maybe next year?

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                      @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy

                      Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                      Maybe next year?

                      Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                        BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                        The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                        Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                        Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                        Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                        Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                        Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                        Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                        Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                        Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                        Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                        Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                        Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                        Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                        Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                        Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                        Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                        Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                        Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                        Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                        Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                        Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                        Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                        Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                        Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                        Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                        Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                        Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                        Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                        Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                        Che Clarke – Kings College
                        Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                        Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                        Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                        Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                        Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                        Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                        Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                        Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                        Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                        Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                        Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                        Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                        PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                        Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                        Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                        Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                        Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                        Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                        Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                        Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                        Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                        John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                        Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                        Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                        Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                        Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                        Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                        Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                        Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                        Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                        Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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                          Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                            Some players to look out for in the Blues Colts or Dev Team:

                            Soane Vikena
                            Taufa Funaki
                            Zarn Sullivan
                            Lemeki Namoa
                            Rob Cobb

                            Freedom Vaha’akolo and AJ Lam are a couple of others.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                              @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                              Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                              @taniwharugby

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                @taniwharugby

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                                @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                                @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                @taniwharugby

                                Pretty sure he's too old.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                                  @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                  Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                  @taniwharugby

                                  Pretty sure he's too old.

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                                  Former blues and crusaders lossie brendon o Connor has signed with the sunwolves for 2020

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                                    @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                    Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                    @taniwharugby

                                    Pretty sure he's too old.

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                                    @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

                                      Reckon you should contact Northampton they might be interested.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        So what's your first choice XXIII?

                                        1. Karl T
                                        2. Parsons
                                        3. Ofa T
                                        4. Tuipulotu
                                        5. Pierce
                                        6. Robinson
                                        7. Papalii
                                        8. Ioane
                                        9. Christie
                                        10. Barrett/Plummer
                                        11. Ioane
                                        12. Faiane
                                        13. Marchant
                                        14. Narawa
                                        15. Perofeta

                                        Reserves:

                                        1. Niuia
                                        2. Hodgman
                                        3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                                        4. Tucker/GCT
                                        5. Gibson
                                        6. Nock
                                        7. Tele'a/Plummer
                                        8. Duffie/Telea

                                        Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                                        @Tim By the sounds of things, Rieko will be the first choice 13. Marchant probably has to play on the wing at first. Like you, I'd prefer it the other way around.

                                        I wish we saw more of Narawa at fullback to see if he's a proper option there, but it was too small a sample to really say. In saying that, I don't want to break a talent like him, so play him on the wing to be safe.

                                        I'd have Sotutu on the bench ahead of Gibson. I'm not sure Gibson adds much as a bench option. Sotutu's also on his last year of his contract and we have to play him if we want to keep him longer. The way we barely used him last season, we're already on the back foot to retain him.

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                                        • DiceD Dice

                                          @Tim By the sounds of things, Rieko will be the first choice 13. Marchant probably has to play on the wing at first. Like you, I'd prefer it the other way around.

                                          I wish we saw more of Narawa at fullback to see if he's a proper option there, but it was too small a sample to really say. In saying that, I don't want to break a talent like him, so play him on the wing to be safe.

                                          I'd have Sotutu on the bench ahead of Gibson. I'm not sure Gibson adds much as a bench option. Sotutu's also on his last year of his contract and we have to play him if we want to keep him longer. The way we barely used him last season, we're already on the back foot to retain him.

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                                          I'm pissed that they signed Tony Lamborn
                                          They could of signed mitch Jacobson instead

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