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Blues 2020

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  • TimT Tim

    So what's your first choice XXIII?

    1. Karl T
    2. Parsons
    3. Ofa T
    4. Tuipulotu
    5. Pierce
    6. Robinson
    7. Papalii
    8. Ioane
    9. Christie
    10. Barrett/Plummer
    11. Ioane
    12. Faiane
    13. Marchant
    14. Narawa
    15. Perofeta

    Reserves:

    1. Niuia
    2. Hodgman
    3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
    4. Tucker/GCT
    5. Gibson
    6. Nock
    7. Tele'a/Plummer
    8. Duffie/Telea

    Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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    @Tim that's a fantastic super level forward pack. Backs...meh.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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      @Tim Meh, not as fussed about missing out on him as a lot of others are on here. Lamborn's ok as backup.

      Still too many glaring holes for me especially in the backs. 9 as usual, depth at 12 and 15 could become problem positions for us. I'd assume that Plummer/Groundwater could see a bit of gametime should Faiane go down. Fullback worries me. Think we're screwed there when Perofeta and Duffie inevitably get injured. Maybe Narawa's worth a look there?

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        I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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        • BonesB Bones

          I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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          @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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            @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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            @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

            @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

            We could play without a fullback and be ahead of where we were with Collins on the field.

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

              Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

              Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

              Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

              I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                • TimT Tim

                  So what's your first choice XXIII?

                  1. Karl T
                  2. Parsons
                  3. Ofa T
                  4. Tuipulotu
                  5. Pierce
                  6. Robinson
                  7. Papalii
                  8. Ioane
                  9. Christie
                  10. Barrett/Plummer
                  11. Ioane
                  12. Faiane
                  13. Marchant
                  14. Narawa
                  15. Perofeta

                  Reserves:

                  1. Niuia
                  2. Hodgman
                  3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                  4. Tucker/GCT
                  5. Gibson
                  6. Nock
                  7. Tele'a/Plummer
                  8. Duffie/Telea

                  Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                  @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

                  Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                      @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                        @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                        The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                        Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                        I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                        I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                        It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                        That has implications for the captaincy

                        Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                          The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                          Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                          I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                          I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                          It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                          That has implications for the captaincy

                          Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                          @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                            @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                              @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy

                              Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                              Maybe next year?

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                                Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                                  They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy

                                    Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                    Maybe next year?

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                                    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                                    @Daffy-Jaffy

                                    Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                    Maybe next year?

                                    Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                                      BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                                      The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                                      Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                                      Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                                      Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                                      Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                                      Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                                      Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                                      Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                                      Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                                      Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                                      Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                                      Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                                      Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                                      Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                                      Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                                      Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                                      Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                                      Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                                      Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                                      Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                                      Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                                      Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                                      Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                                      Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                                      Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                                      Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                                      Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                                      Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                                      Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                                      Che Clarke – Kings College
                                      Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                                      Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                                      Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                                      Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                                      Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                                      Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                                      Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                                      Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                                      Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                                      Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                                      Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                                      Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                                      PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                                      Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                                      Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                                      Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                                      Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                                      Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                                      Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                                      Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                                      Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                                      John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                                      Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                                      Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                                      Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                                      Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                                      Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                                      Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                                      Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                                      Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                                      Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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                                        Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                                          Some players to look out for in the Blues Colts or Dev Team:

                                          Soane Vikena
                                          Taufa Funaki
                                          Zarn Sullivan
                                          Lemeki Namoa
                                          Rob Cobb

                                          Freedom Vaha’akolo and AJ Lam are a couple of others.

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