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Blues 2020

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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

    Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

    Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

    Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

    I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

      Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

      Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

      Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

      I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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      @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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      • TimT Tim

        So what's your first choice XXIII?

        1. Karl T
        2. Parsons
        3. Ofa T
        4. Tuipulotu
        5. Pierce
        6. Robinson
        7. Papalii
        8. Ioane
        9. Christie
        10. Barrett/Plummer
        11. Ioane
        12. Faiane
        13. Marchant
        14. Narawa
        15. Perofeta

        Reserves:

        1. Niuia
        2. Hodgman
        3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
        4. Tucker/GCT
        5. Gibson
        6. Nock
        7. Tele'a/Plummer
        8. Duffie/Telea

        Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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        @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

        Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

          @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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            @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

              The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

              Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

              I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
              I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

              It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

              That has implications for the captaincy

              Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                That has implications for the captaincy

                Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                  @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy

                    Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                    Maybe next year?

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                      Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                        @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                        They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                          Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                          Maybe next year?

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                          @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                          Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                          Maybe next year?

                          Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                            BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                            The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                            Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                            Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                            Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                            Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                            Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                            Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                            Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                            Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                            Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                            Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                            Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                            Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                            Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                            Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                            Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                            Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                            Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                            Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                            Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                            Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                            Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                            Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                            Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                            Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                            Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                            Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                            Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                            Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                            Che Clarke – Kings College
                            Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                            Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                            Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                            Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                            Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                            Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                            Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                            Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                            Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                            Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                            Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                            Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                            PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                            Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                            Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                            Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                            Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                            Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                            Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                            Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                            Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                            John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                            Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                            Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                            Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                            Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                            Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                            Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                            Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                            Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                            Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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                              Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                                Some players to look out for in the Blues Colts or Dev Team:

                                Soane Vikena
                                Taufa Funaki
                                Zarn Sullivan
                                Lemeki Namoa
                                Rob Cobb

                                Freedom Vaha’akolo and AJ Lam are a couple of others.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                                  @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                  Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                  @taniwharugby

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                    Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                    @taniwharugby

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                                    @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                                    @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                    Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                    @taniwharugby

                                    Pretty sure he's too old.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                      Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                      @taniwharugby

                                      Pretty sure he's too old.

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                                      Former blues and crusaders lossie brendon o Connor has signed with the sunwolves for 2020

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Tim said in Blues 2020:

                                        @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                        Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                        @taniwharugby

                                        Pretty sure he's too old.

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                                        @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                                          @Bones I just look old and lack top end pace, a bit of height and well, ability, otherwise...

                                          Reckon you should contact Northampton they might be interested.

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