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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @rotated said in Blues 2020:

    When was that?

    Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
    https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

    @rotated said in Blues 2020:

    When was that?

    Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
    https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

    Appreciate that. Thanks!

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    • TimT Tim

      @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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      @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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      • TimT Tim

        So what's your first choice XXIII?

        1. Karl T
        2. Parsons
        3. Ofa T
        4. Tuipulotu
        5. Pierce
        6. Robinson
        7. Papalii
        8. Ioane
        9. Christie
        10. Barrett/Plummer
        11. Ioane
        12. Faiane
        13. Marchant
        14. Narawa
        15. Perofeta

        Reserves:

        1. Niuia
        2. Hodgman
        3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
        4. Tucker/GCT
        5. Gibson
        6. Nock
        7. Tele'a/Plummer
        8. Duffie/Telea

        Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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        @Tim that's a fantastic super level forward pack. Backs...meh.

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        • TimT Tim

          @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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          @Tim Meh, not as fussed about missing out on him as a lot of others are on here. Lamborn's ok as backup.

          Still too many glaring holes for me especially in the backs. 9 as usual, depth at 12 and 15 could become problem positions for us. I'd assume that Plummer/Groundwater could see a bit of gametime should Faiane go down. Fullback worries me. Think we're screwed there when Perofeta and Duffie inevitably get injured. Maybe Narawa's worth a look there?

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            I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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              I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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              @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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                @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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                @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

                We could play without a fullback and be ahead of where we were with Collins on the field.

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                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                  @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                  Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                  Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                  Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                  I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                    Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                    Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                    Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                    I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                    @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      So what's your first choice XXIII?

                      1. Karl T
                      2. Parsons
                      3. Ofa T
                      4. Tuipulotu
                      5. Pierce
                      6. Robinson
                      7. Papalii
                      8. Ioane
                      9. Christie
                      10. Barrett/Plummer
                      11. Ioane
                      12. Faiane
                      13. Marchant
                      14. Narawa
                      15. Perofeta

                      Reserves:

                      1. Niuia
                      2. Hodgman
                      3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                      4. Tucker/GCT
                      5. Gibson
                      6. Nock
                      7. Tele'a/Plummer
                      8. Duffie/Telea

                      Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                      @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

                      Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                        @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                          @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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                          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                            @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                            The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                            Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                            I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                            I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                            It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                            That has implications for the captaincy

                            Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                              The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                              Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                              I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                              I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                              It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                              That has implications for the captaincy

                              Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                              @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                  @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy

                                  Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                  Maybe next year?

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                                    Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                      @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                                      They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy

                                        Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                        Maybe next year?

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                                        @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy

                                        Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                        Maybe next year?

                                        Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                                          BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                                          The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                                          Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                                          Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                                          Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                                          Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                                          Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                                          Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                                          Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                                          Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                                          Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                                          Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                                          Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                                          Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                                          Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                                          Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                                          Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                                          Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                                          Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                                          Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                                          Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                                          Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                                          Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                                          Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                                          Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                                          Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                                          Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                                          Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                                          Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                                          Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                                          Che Clarke – Kings College
                                          Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                                          Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                                          Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                                          Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                                          Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                                          Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                                          Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                                          Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                                          Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                                          Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                                          Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                                          Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                                          PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                                          Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                                          Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                                          Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                                          Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                                          Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                                          Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                                          Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                                          Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                                          John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                                          Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                                          Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                                          Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                                          Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                                          Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                                          Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                                          Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                                          Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                                          Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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