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Blues 2020

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  • TimT Tim

    @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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    @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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    • TimT Tim

      So what's your first choice XXIII?

      1. Karl T
      2. Parsons
      3. Ofa T
      4. Tuipulotu
      5. Pierce
      6. Robinson
      7. Papalii
      8. Ioane
      9. Christie
      10. Barrett/Plummer
      11. Ioane
      12. Faiane
      13. Marchant
      14. Narawa
      15. Perofeta

      Reserves:

      1. Niuia
      2. Hodgman
      3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
      4. Tucker/GCT
      5. Gibson
      6. Nock
      7. Tele'a/Plummer
      8. Duffie/Telea

      Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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      @Tim that's a fantastic super level forward pack. Backs...meh.

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      • TimT Tim

        @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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        @Tim Meh, not as fussed about missing out on him as a lot of others are on here. Lamborn's ok as backup.

        Still too many glaring holes for me especially in the backs. 9 as usual, depth at 12 and 15 could become problem positions for us. I'd assume that Plummer/Groundwater could see a bit of gametime should Faiane go down. Fullback worries me. Think we're screwed there when Perofeta and Duffie inevitably get injured. Maybe Narawa's worth a look there?

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          I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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          • BonesB Bones

            I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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            @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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              @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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              @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

              @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

              We could play without a fullback and be ahead of where we were with Collins on the field.

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                  Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                  Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                  Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                  I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                  @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    So what's your first choice XXIII?

                    1. Karl T
                    2. Parsons
                    3. Ofa T
                    4. Tuipulotu
                    5. Pierce
                    6. Robinson
                    7. Papalii
                    8. Ioane
                    9. Christie
                    10. Barrett/Plummer
                    11. Ioane
                    12. Faiane
                    13. Marchant
                    14. Narawa
                    15. Perofeta

                    Reserves:

                    1. Niuia
                    2. Hodgman
                    3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                    4. Tucker/GCT
                    5. Gibson
                    6. Nock
                    7. Tele'a/Plummer
                    8. Duffie/Telea

                    Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                    @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

                    Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                        @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                          The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                          Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                          I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                          I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                          It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                          That has implications for the captaincy

                          Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                            The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                            Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                            I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                            I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                            It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                            That has implications for the captaincy

                            Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                            @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                              @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy

                                Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                Maybe next year?

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                                  Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                    @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                    @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                                    They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy

                                      Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                      Maybe next year?

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                                      @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy

                                      Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                      Maybe next year?

                                      Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                                        BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                                        The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                                        Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                                        Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                                        Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                                        Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                                        Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                                        Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                                        Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                                        Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                                        Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                                        Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                                        Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                                        Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                                        Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                                        Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                                        Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                                        Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                                        Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                                        Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                                        Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                                        Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                                        Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                                        Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                                        Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                                        Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                                        Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                                        Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                                        Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                                        Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                                        Che Clarke – Kings College
                                        Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                                        Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                                        Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                                        Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                                        Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                                        Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                                        Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                                        Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                                        Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                                        Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                                        Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                                        Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                                        PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                                        Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                                        Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                                        Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                                        Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                                        Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                                        Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                                        Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                                        Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                                        John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                                        Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                                        Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                                        Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                                        Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                                        Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                                        Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                                        Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                                        Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                                        Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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                                          Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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