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  • TimT Tim

    @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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    @Tim Meh, not as fussed about missing out on him as a lot of others are on here. Lamborn's ok as backup.

    Still too many glaring holes for me especially in the backs. 9 as usual, depth at 12 and 15 could become problem positions for us. I'd assume that Plummer/Groundwater could see a bit of gametime should Faiane go down. Fullback worries me. Think we're screwed there when Perofeta and Duffie inevitably get injured. Maybe Narawa's worth a look there?

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      I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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        I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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        @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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          @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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          @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

          @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

          We could play without a fullback and be ahead of where we were with Collins on the field.

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          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

            @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

            Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

            Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

            Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

            I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

              Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

              Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

              Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

              I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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              @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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              • TimT Tim

                So what's your first choice XXIII?

                1. Karl T
                2. Parsons
                3. Ofa T
                4. Tuipulotu
                5. Pierce
                6. Robinson
                7. Papalii
                8. Ioane
                9. Christie
                10. Barrett/Plummer
                11. Ioane
                12. Faiane
                13. Marchant
                14. Narawa
                15. Perofeta

                Reserves:

                1. Niuia
                2. Hodgman
                3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                4. Tucker/GCT
                5. Gibson
                6. Nock
                7. Tele'a/Plummer
                8. Duffie/Telea

                Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

                Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                  @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                    @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                      The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                      Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                      I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                      I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                      It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                      That has implications for the captaincy

                      Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                        The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                        Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                        I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                        I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                        It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                        That has implications for the captaincy

                        Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                        @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                            @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy

                            Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                            Maybe next year?

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                              Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                                They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy

                                  Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                  Maybe next year?

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                                  @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy

                                  Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                  Maybe next year?

                                  Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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                                    BLUES UNDER 17’S SELECTED FOR 2020

                                    The Blues Under 17 Development Squad for 2020 is:

                                    Manase Mahunga – Aorere College
                                    Faka’aongo Lea’aemanu – Auckland Grammar
                                    Falcon Leasuasu – Auckland Grammar
                                    Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo – Auckland Grammar
                                    Gage Jackson – Auckland Grammar
                                    Fionn McKenna – Auckland Grammar
                                    Xavier Enesi Saifoloi – Botany
                                    Lucas Payne – Dargaville HS
                                    Iain Onosi – DeLaSalle
                                    Lima Enosa – DeLaSalle
                                    Joeseph Tunumafono Sale – DeLaSalle
                                    Dylan Roxburgh – Howick College
                                    Nicholas Snyman – Howick College
                                    Matthew Monaghan – Huanui College
                                    Kobe Walters – Kamo High School
                                    Tony Tafa – Kelston Boys
                                    Senta Luaki – Kelston Boys
                                    Zyon Maiu’u – Kelston Boys
                                    Corey Natano – Cassidy – Kelston Boys
                                    Cephus Salaivao – Kelston Boys
                                    Dominic Gagaeolo – Kelston Boys
                                    Dorian Guagatao – Kelston Boys
                                    Kobe Scutt – Kelston Boys
                                    Sam Howling – Kelston Boys
                                    Lucas Casey – Kerikeri HS
                                    Sam Harper – Kerikeri HS
                                    Francis Manuleleua – Kings College
                                    Eric Vaafusuaga – Kings College
                                    Che Clarke – Kings College
                                    Chicago Doyle – Kings College
                                    Zinzan Hansen – Massey High
                                    Jerry Vibose – Massey High
                                    Henare Leefe – Mt Albert Grammar
                                    Jackson Meacham – Mt Albert Grammar
                                    Tama Anderson – Mt Albert Grammar
                                    Mike Kafoa – Otahuhu College
                                    Mose Tuialii – Otahuhu College
                                    Tony Malamala – Papatoetoe
                                    Truman Cuff – Rosmini College
                                    Josiah Unga – Sacred Heart
                                    Kobe Kay – Sacred Heart
                                    PJ Uiese – Sacred Heart
                                    Adam Tamati – Sacred Heart
                                    Ale Aho – St Kentigerns
                                    Taine Kolose – St Kentigerns
                                    Will Bason – St Kentigerns
                                    Jade Stewart – St Kentigerns
                                    Konrad Toleafoa – St Peters College
                                    Ajay Faleafaga – St Peters College
                                    Jeremiah Asi – St Peters College
                                    John Steele – Takapuna Grammar
                                    Hunter Rice – Takapuna Grammar
                                    Mene Manase – Tangaroa College
                                    Mounir Ramach – Te Kuru Kaupapa Maori o Taumarere
                                    Righard Snyman – Westlake Boys
                                    Will Evans – Westlake Boys
                                    Chandler Cunningham-South – Westlake Boys
                                    Caleb Falloon – Westlake Boys
                                    Rupeti Tavui – Westlake Boys
                                    Koha Mahanga – Whangarei Boys

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                                      Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                                        Some players to look out for in the Blues Colts or Dev Team:

                                        Soane Vikena
                                        Taufa Funaki
                                        Zarn Sullivan
                                        Lemeki Namoa
                                        Rob Cobb

                                        Freedom Vaha’akolo and AJ Lam are a couple of others.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

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                                          @Bones said in Blues 2020:

                                          Is that every 16yo rugby player in Auckland?

                                          @taniwharugby

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