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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @rotated said in Blues 2020:

    When was that?

    Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
    https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

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    @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

      @rotated said in Blues 2020:

      When was that?

      Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
      https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

      @rotated said in Blues 2020:

      When was that?

      Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
      https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

      Appreciate that. Thanks!

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      • TimT Tim

        @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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        @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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        • TimT Tim

          So what's your first choice XXIII?

          1. Karl T
          2. Parsons
          3. Ofa T
          4. Tuipulotu
          5. Pierce
          6. Robinson
          7. Papalii
          8. Ioane
          9. Christie
          10. Barrett/Plummer
          11. Ioane
          12. Faiane
          13. Marchant
          14. Narawa
          15. Perofeta

          Reserves:

          1. Niuia
          2. Hodgman
          3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
          4. Tucker/GCT
          5. Gibson
          6. Nock
          7. Tele'a/Plummer
          8. Duffie/Telea

          Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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          @Tim that's a fantastic super level forward pack. Backs...meh.

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          • TimT Tim

            @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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            @Tim Meh, not as fussed about missing out on him as a lot of others are on here. Lamborn's ok as backup.

            Still too many glaring holes for me especially in the backs. 9 as usual, depth at 12 and 15 could become problem positions for us. I'd assume that Plummer/Groundwater could see a bit of gametime should Faiane go down. Fullback worries me. Think we're screwed there when Perofeta and Duffie inevitably get injured. Maybe Narawa's worth a look there?

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              I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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                I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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                @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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                  @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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                  @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                  @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

                  We could play without a fullback and be ahead of where we were with Collins on the field.

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                    Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                    Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                    Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                    I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                      Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team.

                      Unfortunately for Mitch the Chiefs have 3 opensides in their squad so were never going to pick a 4th.

                      Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

                      I mentioned that earlier. Remember that Tucker played at no.6 for the NZ Provincial Barbarians against the Lions and played there a few times for Waikato this year. When he has played for his club it has usually been at no.8.

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                      @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        So what's your first choice XXIII?

                        1. Karl T
                        2. Parsons
                        3. Ofa T
                        4. Tuipulotu
                        5. Pierce
                        6. Robinson
                        7. Papalii
                        8. Ioane
                        9. Christie
                        10. Barrett/Plummer
                        11. Ioane
                        12. Faiane
                        13. Marchant
                        14. Narawa
                        15. Perofeta

                        Reserves:

                        1. Niuia
                        2. Hodgman
                        3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                        4. Tucker/GCT
                        5. Gibson
                        6. Nock
                        7. Tele'a/Plummer
                        8. Duffie/Telea

                        Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                        @Tim Finlay Christie is doubtless one of the 15 best halfbacks in NZ.

                        Don't think he should be a Super starter, though.

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          @Bovidae I am a fan of Tucker - how do you think he might go covering 6 or 8 at super level? I have only seen him play lock.

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy I think Tucker might be better suited at 6 in SR because he isn't the tallest lock going around. One of his biggest assets is his mobility. No.8 would require more ball-handling from scrums but I am sure he could do a job there too if required.

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                            @Bovidae Sounds like a useful bench option.

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                              The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                              Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                              I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                              I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                              It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                              That has implications for the captaincy

                              Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                                The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

                                Yeah, there's a lot of 6 cover in the squad so that suggests Papali'i will be used at 7 often

                                I agree it's not his best position. For some reason his judgement is off and he pushes the refs too hard.. hopefully he fixes that quickly.
                                I've been saying for a year that I think he's the best blindside in NZ. I hope he still gets significant time in his best spot.

                                It's more about Gibson fading a little IMO. If it's a choice between Robinson or Gibson in the starting xv, Gibson misses out.

                                That has implications for the captaincy

                                Last year it was co-captains: Tuipulotu and Gibson. No captain has been announced yet but I assume it will Tuipulotu on his own

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                                @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                  @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                    @Duluth While I think the captaincy is good for P.T. i'm not sure he is that good a captain if you know what I mean. It seems to fire him up to play well but he may be not verbal enough with his team or so strategically aware . TJ.F has been mentioned as an option. Papalii has been seen as a leader since his school days but maybe too early yet?

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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy

                                    Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                    Maybe next year?

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                                      Some guys are just ready to lead. Just give them the role, support with leadership group - earlier the better long term IMO

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in Blues 2020:

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah Patty's always been a quiet guy in general which is why I was suprised he ever got the gig in the first place. I'd prefer TJ Faiane to have it tbh.

                                        They couldn't of picked a more introverted duo than Blake and Patty to be co-captains. Both seem to hate the camera and neither really talk all that much on the field.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                                          Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                          Maybe next year?

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                                          @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                                          Long term I’d prefer Papali’i over TJ

                                          Maybe next year?

                                          Pick Dalton so they keep him on the damn field

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