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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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    Machpants
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    "Kia ora Scotty, we havenโ€™t confirmed the date yet. 12th December is our ASB Rugby Awards, so just as big a news day in the calendar! Be sure to tune in ๐Ÿ“บ๐Ÿ˜‰" you can silently add 'You dick'

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      https://twitter.com/timothytimTO/status/1195165354789658625?s=20

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        https://twitter.com/timothytimTO/status/1195165354789658625?s=20

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        @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        https://twitter.com/timothytimTO/status/1195165354789658625?s=20

        just post your own tweet you narcissist

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          @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          https://twitter.com/timothytimTO/status/1195165354789658625?s=20

          just post your own tweet you narcissist

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          @mariner4life That's not my account! I'm undercover on twitter. ๐Ÿ‘€

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            @mariner4life That's not my account! I'm undercover on twitter. ๐Ÿ‘€

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            @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            @mariner4life That's not my account! I'm undercover on twitter. ๐Ÿ‘€

            suuuure

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              The more I read the more it is obvious. Foster surely cannot get the job. Shouldn't you need to have success at some high level of coaching? How did he get into the All Blacks set up in the first place? If he gets it, it just seems to be real cronyism.

              Like Hansen then?

              5 years NPC with 2 wins despite having the strength of Canterbury

              2 years as an assistant with the Saders

              33% win record as a head coach with Wales

              How did he get into the ABs set up in the first place?

              87% success with ABs as head coach despite no success at some high level of coaching.

              Just trying to add some clarity around things.

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              @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              The more I read the more it is obvious. Foster surely cannot get the job. Shouldn't you need to have success at some high level of coaching? How did he get into the All Blacks set up in the first place? If he gets it, it just seems to be real cronyism.

              Like Hansen then?

              5 years NPC with 2 wins despite having the strength of Canterbury

              2 years as an assistant with the Saders

              33% win record as a head coach with Wales

              How did he get into the ABs set up in the first place?

              87% success with ABs as head coach despite no success at some high level of coaching.

              Just trying to add some clarity around things.

              Only 50% record at RWCs as head coach ...

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                @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                The more I read the more it is obvious. Foster surely cannot get the job. Shouldn't you need to have success at some high level of coaching? How did he get into the All Blacks set up in the first place? If he gets it, it just seems to be real cronyism.

                Like Hansen then?

                5 years NPC with 2 wins despite having the strength of Canterbury

                2 years as an assistant with the Saders

                33% win record as a head coach with Wales

                How did he get into the ABs set up in the first place?

                87% success with ABs as head coach despite no success at some high level of coaching.

                Just trying to add some clarity around things.

                Only 50% record at RWCs as head coach ...

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                  [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117468003/no-dave-rennie-all-blacks-coaching-battle-a-three-horse-race--report

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                  • TimT Tim

                    https://twitter.com/timothytimTO/status/1195165354789658625?s=20

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                    @Tim what dick comment did he then reply to you?

                    @Stargazer that's classic.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1195149295101431808?s=19

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                      @KiwiMurph said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1195149295101431808?s=19

                      I'm backing Dave Rennie now.

                      Nothing against JJ or Razor, but it'll be bloody funny if he-who-used-to-be-Sumo gets this one spectacularly wrong.

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                      • Cantab79C Cantab79

                        @Machpants

                        When you say "well travelled path" you mean it's happened once? With Steve Hansen? Scott Robertson has has success at every level as a coach, at club, U20's, provincial and Super Rugby levels. Why would he or should he play second fiddle to an absolute pretender like Ian Foster who has never had any success as a Head Coach?

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                        @Cantab79 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Machpants

                        When you say "well travelled path" you mean it's happened once? With Steve Hansen? Scott Robertson has has success at every level as a coach, at club, U20's, provincial and Super Rugby levels. Why would he or should he play second fiddle to an absolute pretender like Ian Foster who has never had any success as a Head Coach?

                        The last two head coaches did overseas stints with Wales, then came back to the ABs. I think Henry squeezed in a season with the Blues as a support coach, and they won the thing.

                        International rugby is not Super. You have a larger player pool and less time with the players, no warm-ups, and the weaknesses in the opposition are less.

                        Given Robertson doesn't want to be an assistant, I'd be surprised if he got there this time. Could be the Deans candidate this time around ๐Ÿ˜„

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @KiwiMurph said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1195149295101431808?s=19

                          how underwhelming.

                          JJ had 10 years coaching Super rugby and won once.

                          Foster is a proven failure

                          Robertson has never even got a team to beat the Crusaders.

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                          @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          @KiwiMurph said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1195149295101431808?s=19

                          how underwhelming.

                          JJ had 10 years coaching Super rugby and won once.

                          True, but with the Highlanders.

                          Not a feat anyone else has come close to (except perhaps the Queensland Reds win under Ewen McKenzie -- from rabble to winners back to rabble).

                          Even Rennie had more to work with when he came in.

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                            Razor = takes quality squads to championships
                            Rennie = turns around basket case sides into quality (of varying degrees)
                            Joseph/ Brown = get 'average' squads to punch high

                            When I wrote it like that you can see why Australia want Rennie ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              What does it matter, ABs have the finest cattle, anyone could coach them

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                                What does it matter, ABs have the finest cattle, anyone could coach them

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                                @taniwharugby Yeah - it's money for jam.

                                I have my interview Thursday week.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @Cantab79 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Machpants

                                  When you say "well travelled path" you mean it's happened once? With Steve Hansen? Scott Robertson has has success at every level as a coach, at club, U20's, provincial and Super Rugby levels. Why would he or should he play second fiddle to an absolute pretender like Ian Foster who has never had any success as a Head Coach?

                                  The last two head coaches did overseas stints with Wales, then came back to the ABs. I think Henry squeezed in a season with the Blues as a support coach, and they won the thing.

                                  International rugby is not Super. You have a larger player pool and less time with the players, no warm-ups, and the weaknesses in the opposition are less.

                                  Given Robertson doesn't want to be an assistant, I'd be surprised if he got there this time. Could be the Deans candidate this time around ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                  @nzzp said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Cantab79 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Machpants

                                  When you say "well travelled path" you mean it's happened once? With Steve Hansen? Scott Robertson has has success at every level as a coach, at club, U20's, provincial and Super Rugby levels. Why would he or should he play second fiddle to an absolute pretender like Ian Foster who has never had any success as a Head Coach?

                                  The last two head coaches did overseas stints with Wales, then came back to the ABs. I think Henry squeezed in a season with the Blues as a support coach, and they won the thing.

                                  International rugby is not Super. You have a larger player pool and less time with the players, no warm-ups, and the weaknesses in the opposition are less.

                                  Given Robertson doesn't want to be an assistant, I'd be surprised if he got there this time. Could be the Deans candidate this time around ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  Scott Robertson has as much International Head Coach experience as Ian Foster does. None.

                                  If NZR believe that this year's RWC is as good as it gets, and that a semi final loss is all that we should expect, then they should re-appoint Foster. He's the status quo candidate. He's business as usual. If NZR wants the Ab's to improve and to innovate, then they will need someone new.

                                  Personally I don't want Scott Robertson to coach the AB's because I would like him to rebuild the Crusaders and develop our young squad. But if it means that Ian Foster isn't in charge of the AB's then I'd be happy to sacrifice Razor for the greater good.

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @taniwharugby Yeah - it's money for jam.

                                    I have my interview Thursday week.

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                                    @Chris-B make sure you let us know when you should find out if you are successful

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @taniwharugby Yeah - it's money for jam.

                                      I have my interview Thursday week.

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                                      @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      @taniwharugby Yeah - it's money for jam.

                                      I have my interview Thursday week.

                                      Turn up with Pat Lam as your running mate and all is sweet. Oh wait...

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                                        Is there anyone outside of the NZR senior leadership circle that genuinely thinks that Ian Foster is the best person for the job? His appointment would be the very definition of cronyism.

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                                        • Cantab79C Cantab79

                                          Is there anyone outside of the NZR senior leadership circle that genuinely thinks that Ian Foster is the best person for the job? His appointment would be the very definition of cronyism.

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                                          @Cantab79 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          Is there anyone outside of the NZR senior leadership circle that genuinely thinks that Ian Foster is the best person for the job? His appointment would be the very definition of cronyism.

                                          As would the inexperienced Robertson really.

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