Possible All Blacks 2020
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@Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.
Poor old Reiko getting no love?
Reiko Ioane was a disappointing dud in the RWC. His form was fine in his one game this year. Needs more of the same.
I'm disappointed with Braydon Ennor defensive work so far this season. Could make the ABs starting line up if he make dominant tackles on a regular basis. If he remains fit, I am sure Laumape will get lots of game time for the ABs in 2020.
Backs aren't the issue. Lots of very good players. Lock and Back Row is where the cupboard looks thin.
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
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@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
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@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
1.93 on the Crusaders site.. the other number is probably a stat from the u20's?
There are still sites that claim Papali'i is 95kg
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@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
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@mariner4life Geez, then Luke Jacobson (191cm) better stay at home, too.
@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life Geez, then Luke Jacobson (191cm) better stay at home, too.
yes, at 6, he should. Especially dependent on who is at 8. If our tallest loose forward is 191 that's not good enough
I'm not sold on any of them, so don't try and divide it by team lines
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@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life Geez, then Luke Jacobson (191cm) better stay at home, too.
yes, at 6, he should. Especially dependent on who is at 8. If our tallest loose forward is 191 that's not good enough
I'm not sold on any of them, so don't try and divide it by team lines
@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
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@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
i agree. My thoughts are is, if 2 of our starting loosies are Cane and Savea (npt something i agree with) then 193 is too short
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@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
i agree. My thoughts are is, if 2 of our starting loosies are Cane and Savea (npt something i agree with) then 193 is too short
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@mariner4life Shannon Frizell will be happy to read that.
@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life Shannon Frizell will be happy to read that.
the man, the myth.
how exactly does a go from teh bench to the squad? he never plays!
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@Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not blaming them - but, I reckon if we'd had a more general level of calm then maybe that push doesn't happen.
nup, I'm not having that. SW is supposed to bring the calm. He's an experienced player who is also a captain. It's his job to rise above the storm and provide stability for the others to feed off, not the other way around.
I'll give you that, with hindsight, there was a distinct lack of leadership across the park. And that definitely had an effect. But i will not go so far as to forgive a leader for a boneheaded play.
@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not blaming them - but, I reckon if we'd had a more general level of calm then maybe that push doesn't happen.
nup, I'm not having that. SW is supposed to bring the calm. He's an experienced player who is also a captain. It's his job to rise above the storm and provide stability for the others to feed off, not the other way around.
I'll give you that, with hindsight, there was a distinct lack of leadership across the park. And that definitely had an effect. But i will not go so far as to forgive a leader for a boneheaded play.
This. That was completely unforgivable and that single act alone should rule him out of any captaincy discussions.
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@Crucial having interviewed Jerome Kaino ,and Victor Vito was standing beside him ,there is no way in gods earth he is 1.96..is that the old 6’4 measurement..?, Vito is 6’2, Jerome is about an inch taller, I have picture of them standing together and there is hardly any difference ..
Much of the stats are very suspect, I have heard commentators , Ken Laban for example is shocking ..they add height and weight on to players , it does my head in ,Solomon Alaimalo is supposed to be 6’5, Solomon is 6’3, spoken to him many times and even joked about his height...
Julian Savea was another one who is 6’2 but I have commentators saying is the same height as a Jonah..
Israel Folau is listed at 6’3 on Wikipedia..,he is actually 6’5, and their is no way even Jerome or Solomon are taller than Israel.. -
I'm 187 and i wasn't tall in country football. i find it hard to believe these guys are a couple of cm taller then me.
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I'd like to see a return to the JABS - would be a handy gauge on guys like Big Red, Sotutu, Miaele-Tu, Parkinson, Grace, Fakatava (if he ever takes the field) and ye - even Akira.
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@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
i agree. My thoughts are is, if 2 of our starting loosies are Cane and Savea (npt something i agree with) then 193 is too short
@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
i agree. My thoughts are is, if 2 of our starting loosies are Cane and Savea (npt something i agree with) then 193 is too short
Get on the #Mako boat, my man. All problems solved by winners!
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@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
@mariner4life I’m tallish 192cm and he is my height if not a little taller. Tough though!
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@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
Send him to Ardie Baba.
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@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
Send him to Ardie Baba.
@pakman said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
i thought i read he is "only" 190cm? That's probably a touch short
although a good jumper can play "taller"
Send him to Ardie Baba.
Ardie's barber?
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@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
@98blueandgold said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@sparky if Cullen Grace can repeat his game from the weekend numerous times I think he is a good option in back row at 6. Jumper plus tough. Possibly a year to early though
Grace is a big Talent rated highly by the Crusaders,But he's just turned 20 a future Allblack but not this year let him grow his game in SR.
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@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
@Stargazer said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life I'm not interested in team lines or Grace (too young). It was a comment on his height (193cm).
I'd like to see Jacobson at 6 (possibly covering 8).
It's all about the combos. Who are the locks and how tall are they. Who are the other loosies and what's their height.
Well you would think the AB's will Start Cane and Savea surley they are our best 2 LF's so the 3rd LF you would think has height otherwise we are compromised a bit come line out time, With the hints by Foster on needing physicality are they looking for a enforcer like Kanio.
It takes awhile for that sort of player to develop into the uncompromising hard enforcer, who isn't a liability with brain explosions in the heat of battle.
