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  • raznomoreR Offline
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    #708

    Sorry got that wrong saw an older card while recovering from a hangover this morning. Villante fighting Greene as we speak

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      Crazy finish to that fight. Getting his ass handed to him and Greene pulls off the sub from the back.

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      • DuluthD Offline
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        Gall got his ass kicked but I was impressed by how much his striking has improved

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          Any casual NZ based fans - Dan Hookers fight starts in a few minutes on ESPN

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            Any casual NZ based fans - Dan Hookers fight starts in a few minutes on ESPN

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            #712

            @Duluth wow! That’s a fight of the year contender in any year let alone this one. Had the 2nd round been 10 seconds longer it would have been a different story. Hooker should have stayed with the leg kick man! He had something that was seriously troubling Pourier but Hooker decided to stand. He ran out of gas.

            Dustin post fight breakdown of “flashing out” to a Hooker knee was great stuff. Good to hear some actual technical breakdown from a fighter rather whatever the fuck was going on with Perry’s post fight.

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            • raznomoreR raznomore

              @Duluth wow! That’s a fight of the year contender in any year let alone this one. Had the 2nd round been 10 seconds longer it would have been a different story. Hooker should have stayed with the leg kick man! He had something that was seriously troubling Pourier but Hooker decided to stand. He ran out of gas.

              Dustin post fight breakdown of “flashing out” to a Hooker knee was great stuff. Good to hear some actual technical breakdown from a fighter rather whatever the fuck was going on with Perry’s post fight.

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              #713

              @raznomore said in UFC:

              That’s a fight of the year contender in any year let alone this one..

              Absolutely

              He probably has two fights in the top 5 of the year

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                Amazing fight. Dan needs to work on his fitness and defence but he's shown he can at least hang with the top guys. Stock definitely went up.

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                  Great card with some big upsets and turnarounds.

                  Hooker is tough as fuck fair play.

                  But ultimately his game plan let him down.

                  As said above, should have hacked not hooked.

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                  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                    Amazing fight. Dan needs to work on his fitness and defence but he's shown he can at least hang with the top guys. Stock definitely went up.

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                    @mofitzy_ I think he has problems with his reflexes or depth perception. He seemed to react to the jab just before it hit him. Like he didn't see it until it was hitting him. Now I know some of you are going to say "well isn't that how punches work? It's the ones you don't see that do the damage?" Well yes and no. You can see a punch coming and still get hit. If you miscalculate your opponent's reach and speed you can still see it coming and brace accordingly but still get caught. Dan doesn't do that. He gets hit with multiple punches and it's like he doesn't see any of them coming. He had a substantial reach advantage and only threw a few jabs per round. Pourier is an elite boxer for MMA though. Still, Dan's work was all close-quarters stuff. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

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                    • raznomoreR raznomore

                      @mofitzy_ I think he has problems with his reflexes or depth perception. He seemed to react to the jab just before it hit him. Like he didn't see it until it was hitting him. Now I know some of you are going to say "well isn't that how punches work? It's the ones you don't see that do the damage?" Well yes and no. You can see a punch coming and still get hit. If you miscalculate your opponent's reach and speed you can still see it coming and brace accordingly but still get caught. Dan doesn't do that. He gets hit with multiple punches and it's like he doesn't see any of them coming. He had a substantial reach advantage and only threw a few jabs per round. Pourier is an elite boxer for MMA though. Still, Dan's work was all close-quarters stuff. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

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                      @raznomore

                      He does seem to get hit as lot.. On that, I was just checking the stats to see what Poirier's striking %age was.
                      http://www.ufcstats.com/fight-details/f8dd1e75978a3957

                      Significant Strike %
                      Poirier 66%
                      Hooker 61%

                      That seems crazy for a five round fight with two guys that have plenty of KO's

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                        #718

                        https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                        I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                        It's extremely unlikely.

                        The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                        The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                        That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                        Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

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                          Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                          Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

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                            Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                            Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

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                            @Duluth said in UFC:

                            Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                            Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

                            Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

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                              @Duluth said in UFC:

                              Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                              Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

                              Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

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                              @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                              Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                              I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                              So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                              This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                                I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                                So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                                This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                                @Duluth said in UFC:

                                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                                I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                                So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                                This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

                                Can't wait

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                                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                  Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                                  I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                                  So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                                  This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                                  @Duluth Jorge has that street Jesus persona and he comes across as a dumbass, scar face wannabe thug. But I don’t think as he’s stupid as he appears.

                                  But we finally end up with the fight people actually want to see. So yusss to that.

                                  Side note, when Paige Vanzant get into fight shape, like she is now, Jesus.H.Christ!

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                                    I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                                    It's extremely unlikely.

                                    The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                                    The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                                    That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                                    Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

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                                    MajorPom
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #724

                                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                                    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                                    I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                                    It's extremely unlikely.

                                    The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                                    The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                                    That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                                    Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                                    I had thought about this myself. I know some people who potentially could have helped make this happen.

                                    Would Jacinda allow it politically tho? And what happens if there is a mini outbreak just prior ....

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                                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                                      https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                                      I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                                      It's extremely unlikely.

                                      The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                                      The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                                      That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                                      Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                                      I had thought about this myself. I know some people who potentially could have helped make this happen.

                                      Would Jacinda allow it politically tho? And what happens if there is a mini outbreak just prior ....

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                                      Duluth
                                      wrote on last edited by Duluth
                                      #725

                                      @MajorRage

                                      Eugene Bareman was talking about it in an interview a couple of days ago. He said they could sell out a stadium (40-60k was the numbers he was talking about)

                                      He admitted there was logistical problems but said if Dana should get in contact with the NZ gov

                                      Still unlikely, but slightly more possible now Bareman is asking for it

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                                        Not related to the above, but anyone else watched that 30 for 30 Chuck and Tito and the rise of the UFC? Bloody interesting. Especially watching Dana get bigger over the journey...

                                        Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          Not related to the above, but anyone else watched that 30 for 30 Chuck and Tito and the rise of the UFC? Bloody interesting. Especially watching Dana get bigger over the journey...

                                          Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

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                                          Duluth
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                                          #727

                                          @mariner4life said in UFC:

                                          Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                                          Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                                          I only became a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

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