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  • raznomoreR raznomore

    @Duluth wow! That’s a fight of the year contender in any year let alone this one. Had the 2nd round been 10 seconds longer it would have been a different story. Hooker should have stayed with the leg kick man! He had something that was seriously troubling Pourier but Hooker decided to stand. He ran out of gas.

    Dustin post fight breakdown of “flashing out” to a Hooker knee was great stuff. Good to hear some actual technical breakdown from a fighter rather whatever the fuck was going on with Perry’s post fight.

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    #713

    @raznomore said in UFC:

    That’s a fight of the year contender in any year let alone this one..

    Absolutely

    He probably has two fights in the top 5 of the year

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      Amazing fight. Dan needs to work on his fitness and defence but he's shown he can at least hang with the top guys. Stock definitely went up.

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        MiketheSnow
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        #715

        Great card with some big upsets and turnarounds.

        Hooker is tough as fuck fair play.

        But ultimately his game plan let him down.

        As said above, should have hacked not hooked.

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        • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

          Amazing fight. Dan needs to work on his fitness and defence but he's shown he can at least hang with the top guys. Stock definitely went up.

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          @mofitzy_ I think he has problems with his reflexes or depth perception. He seemed to react to the jab just before it hit him. Like he didn't see it until it was hitting him. Now I know some of you are going to say "well isn't that how punches work? It's the ones you don't see that do the damage?" Well yes and no. You can see a punch coming and still get hit. If you miscalculate your opponent's reach and speed you can still see it coming and brace accordingly but still get caught. Dan doesn't do that. He gets hit with multiple punches and it's like he doesn't see any of them coming. He had a substantial reach advantage and only threw a few jabs per round. Pourier is an elite boxer for MMA though. Still, Dan's work was all close-quarters stuff. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

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          • raznomoreR raznomore

            @mofitzy_ I think he has problems with his reflexes or depth perception. He seemed to react to the jab just before it hit him. Like he didn't see it until it was hitting him. Now I know some of you are going to say "well isn't that how punches work? It's the ones you don't see that do the damage?" Well yes and no. You can see a punch coming and still get hit. If you miscalculate your opponent's reach and speed you can still see it coming and brace accordingly but still get caught. Dan doesn't do that. He gets hit with multiple punches and it's like he doesn't see any of them coming. He had a substantial reach advantage and only threw a few jabs per round. Pourier is an elite boxer for MMA though. Still, Dan's work was all close-quarters stuff. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

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            @raznomore

            He does seem to get hit as lot.. On that, I was just checking the stats to see what Poirier's striking %age was.
            http://www.ufcstats.com/fight-details/f8dd1e75978a3957

            Significant Strike %
            Poirier 66%
            Hooker 61%

            That seems crazy for a five round fight with two guys that have plenty of KO's

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              #718

              https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


              I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

              It's extremely unlikely.

              The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

              The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

              That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

              Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

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                Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                  Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

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                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                  Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                  Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

                  Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                    Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

                    Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

                    Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

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                    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                    Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                    I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                    So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                    This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                      I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                      So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                      This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                      I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                      So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                      This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

                      Can't wait

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                        Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                        I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                        So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                        This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                        @Duluth Jorge has that street Jesus persona and he comes across as a dumbass, scar face wannabe thug. But I don’t think as he’s stupid as he appears.

                        But we finally end up with the fight people actually want to see. So yusss to that.

                        Side note, when Paige Vanzant get into fight shape, like she is now, Jesus.H.Christ!

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                          I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                          It's extremely unlikely.

                          The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                          The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                          That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                          Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

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                          MajorPom
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #724

                          @Duluth said in UFC:

                          https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                          I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                          It's extremely unlikely.

                          The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                          The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                          That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                          Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                          I had thought about this myself. I know some people who potentially could have helped make this happen.

                          Would Jacinda allow it politically tho? And what happens if there is a mini outbreak just prior ....

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                          • MajorPomM MajorPom

                            @Duluth said in UFC:

                            https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                            I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                            It's extremely unlikely.

                            The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                            The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                            That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                            Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                            I had thought about this myself. I know some people who potentially could have helped make this happen.

                            Would Jacinda allow it politically tho? And what happens if there is a mini outbreak just prior ....

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                            Duluth
                            wrote on last edited by Duluth
                            #725

                            @MajorRage

                            Eugene Bareman was talking about it in an interview a couple of days ago. He said they could sell out a stadium (40-60k was the numbers he was talking about)

                            He admitted there was logistical problems but said if Dana should get in contact with the NZ gov

                            Still unlikely, but slightly more possible now Bareman is asking for it

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                              #726

                              Not related to the above, but anyone else watched that 30 for 30 Chuck and Tito and the rise of the UFC? Bloody interesting. Especially watching Dana get bigger over the journey...

                              Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                Not related to the above, but anyone else watched that 30 for 30 Chuck and Tito and the rise of the UFC? Bloody interesting. Especially watching Dana get bigger over the journey...

                                Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

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                                #727

                                @mariner4life said in UFC:

                                Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                                Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                                I only became a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @mariner4life said in UFC:

                                  Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                                  Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                                  I only became a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

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                                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                                  @mariner4life said in UFC:

                                  Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                                  Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                                  I only become a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

                                  "He's a really dumb guy"

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                                    @mariner4life said in UFC:

                                    Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                                    Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                                    I only become a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

                                    "He's a really dumb guy"

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                                    raznomore
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                                    #729

                                    @mariner4life Dana's got that Michael Jordan clout. He can say what he likes to whomever he wants. Plus Tito is a dumbshit.

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                                      raznomore
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                                      Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                      This man is a dead shit.

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                                      • raznomoreR raznomore

                                        Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                        This man is a dead shit.

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                                        #731

                                        @raznomore said in UFC:

                                        Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                        This man is a dead shit.

                                        How dumb is the old, fat guy to call Perry a motherfucker twice and mimic him?

                                        How dumb is Perry using the 'n' word?

                                        Gone With The Wind

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                                          #732

                                          @raznomore said in UFC:

                                          Fight Island is paid for and booked!

                                          What are your predictions for the main card?

                                          Usman vs Masvidal
                                          Volkanovski vs Holloway
                                          Yan vs Aldo
                                          Andrade vs Namajunas
                                          Ribas vs VanZant

                                          Hmmm.. I just realised thats all the favourites. Yan/Aldo was the toughest pick.. I'm fairly confident in Volkanovski

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