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  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

    Amazing fight. Dan needs to work on his fitness and defence but he's shown he can at least hang with the top guys. Stock definitely went up.

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    raznomore
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    #716

    @mofitzy_ I think he has problems with his reflexes or depth perception. He seemed to react to the jab just before it hit him. Like he didn't see it until it was hitting him. Now I know some of you are going to say "well isn't that how punches work? It's the ones you don't see that do the damage?" Well yes and no. You can see a punch coming and still get hit. If you miscalculate your opponent's reach and speed you can still see it coming and brace accordingly but still get caught. Dan doesn't do that. He gets hit with multiple punches and it's like he doesn't see any of them coming. He had a substantial reach advantage and only threw a few jabs per round. Pourier is an elite boxer for MMA though. Still, Dan's work was all close-quarters stuff. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

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    • raznomoreR raznomore

      @mofitzy_ I think he has problems with his reflexes or depth perception. He seemed to react to the jab just before it hit him. Like he didn't see it until it was hitting him. Now I know some of you are going to say "well isn't that how punches work? It's the ones you don't see that do the damage?" Well yes and no. You can see a punch coming and still get hit. If you miscalculate your opponent's reach and speed you can still see it coming and brace accordingly but still get caught. Dan doesn't do that. He gets hit with multiple punches and it's like he doesn't see any of them coming. He had a substantial reach advantage and only threw a few jabs per round. Pourier is an elite boxer for MMA though. Still, Dan's work was all close-quarters stuff. I'm not saying there's definitely something wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

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      #717

      @raznomore

      He does seem to get hit as lot.. On that, I was just checking the stats to see what Poirier's striking %age was.
      http://www.ufcstats.com/fight-details/f8dd1e75978a3957

      Significant Strike %
      Poirier 66%
      Hooker 61%

      That seems crazy for a five round fight with two guys that have plenty of KO's

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        wrote on last edited by Duluth
        #718

        https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


        I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

        It's extremely unlikely.

        The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

        The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

        That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

        Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

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          #719

          Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

          Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

            Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

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            #720

            @Duluth said in UFC:

            Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

            Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

            Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @Duluth said in UFC:

              Gilbert Burns out of the Usman fight. He got covid.

              Apparently they are trying to get Masvidal to replace him. I suspect they are pushing shit uphill.. not much time left, Usman didn't travel to the island when the fight was cancelled & I think Masvidal will ask for silly money

              Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

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              Duluth
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              #721

              @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

              Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

              I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

              So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

              This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                MiketheSnow
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                #722

                @Duluth said in UFC:

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

                Can't wait

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                  Masvidal would be stupid not to take the fight assuming he's fight fit.

                  I assumed he was stupid. Happy to be wrong.

                  So it’s official now. Masvidal has passed a Covid test and will fly to Abu Dhabi.

                  This fight is far more interesting than Burns. The stacked card just got better.

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                  raznomore
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                  @Duluth Jorge has that street Jesus persona and he comes across as a dumbass, scar face wannabe thug. But I don’t think as he’s stupid as he appears.

                  But we finally end up with the fight people actually want to see. So yusss to that.

                  Side note, when Paige Vanzant get into fight shape, like she is now, Jesus.H.Christ!

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                    I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                    It's extremely unlikely.

                    The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                    The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                    That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                    Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                    MajorPomM Away
                    MajorPomM Away
                    MajorPom
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #724

                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                    I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                    It's extremely unlikely.

                    The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                    The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                    That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                    Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                    I had thought about this myself. I know some people who potentially could have helped make this happen.

                    Would Jacinda allow it politically tho? And what happens if there is a mini outbreak just prior ....

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      @Duluth said in UFC:

                      https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1278709834288902145


                      I was wondering when people in the US would start talking about this

                      It's extremely unlikely.

                      The fighters could quarantine and train in a hotel if the UFC took over a few floors. That's not too different from normal. I think most of them arrived ~10 days before the last NZ card. They often train in hotel conference rooms etc

                      The issue is all the support staff that the UFC flies around to every event. That 2 week isolation probably makes it impossible

                      That's without mentioning the NZ Govt

                      Still Dana might want to be first again.. the first major US sport with a normal crowd would be a big deal

                      I had thought about this myself. I know some people who potentially could have helped make this happen.

                      Would Jacinda allow it politically tho? And what happens if there is a mini outbreak just prior ....

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                      Duluth
                      wrote on last edited by Duluth
                      #725

                      @MajorRage

                      Eugene Bareman was talking about it in an interview a couple of days ago. He said they could sell out a stadium (40-60k was the numbers he was talking about)

                      He admitted there was logistical problems but said if Dana should get in contact with the NZ gov

                      Still unlikely, but slightly more possible now Bareman is asking for it

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                        mariner4life
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                        #726

                        Not related to the above, but anyone else watched that 30 for 30 Chuck and Tito and the rise of the UFC? Bloody interesting. Especially watching Dana get bigger over the journey...

                        Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Not related to the above, but anyone else watched that 30 for 30 Chuck and Tito and the rise of the UFC? Bloody interesting. Especially watching Dana get bigger over the journey...

                          Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

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                          Duluth
                          wrote on last edited by Duluth
                          #727

                          @mariner4life said in UFC:

                          Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                          Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                          I only became a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @mariner4life said in UFC:

                            Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                            Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                            I only became a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

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                            mariner4life
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #728

                            @Duluth said in UFC:

                            @mariner4life said in UFC:

                            Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                            Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                            I only become a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

                            "He's a really dumb guy"

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Duluth said in UFC:

                              @mariner4life said in UFC:

                              Tito and Dana really fucking hate each other.

                              Dana's shots at Tito were funny. It was hard watching Liddell keep fighting

                              I only become a fan about ten years so I missed all this stuff first time around

                              "He's a really dumb guy"

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                              raznomore
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #729

                              @mariner4life Dana's got that Michael Jordan clout. He can say what he likes to whomever he wants. Plus Tito is a dumbshit.

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                                raznomore
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                                #730

                                Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                This man is a dead shit.

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                                  Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                  This man is a dead shit.

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                                  MiketheSnow
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                                  #731

                                  @raznomore said in UFC:

                                  Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                  This man is a dead shit.

                                  How dumb is the old, fat guy to call Perry a motherfucker twice and mimic him?

                                  How dumb is Perry using the 'n' word?

                                  Gone With The Wind

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                                    #732

                                    @raznomore said in UFC:

                                    Fight Island is paid for and booked!

                                    What are your predictions for the main card?

                                    Usman vs Masvidal
                                    Volkanovski vs Holloway
                                    Yan vs Aldo
                                    Andrade vs Namajunas
                                    Ribas vs VanZant

                                    Hmmm.. I just realised thats all the favourites. Yan/Aldo was the toughest pick.. I'm fairly confident in Volkanovski

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @raznomore said in UFC:

                                      Fight Island is paid for and booked!

                                      What are your predictions for the main card?

                                      Usman vs Masvidal
                                      Volkanovski vs Holloway
                                      Yan vs Aldo
                                      Andrade vs Namajunas
                                      Ribas vs VanZant

                                      Hmmm.. I just realised thats all the favourites. Yan/Aldo was the toughest pick.. I'm fairly confident in Volkanovski

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                                      raznomore
                                      wrote on last edited by raznomore
                                      #733

                                      @Duluth Hard to disagree.

                                      I think Rose is by far the better fighter but I'm not sure her head is right. She seems like such a reluctant fighter.

                                      Volkansovski vs Holloway is probably the purist fight. 2 guys at the height if their game. If Max comes to fight....its too close to call for me.

                                      I think Usman is an elite champion. He could be there for a long time. He's a bit like Khabib. Not always the most fun fights to watch but he gets shit done and mostly, efficiently. Masvidal is not a chump but let's face it if he gets the win none of us know anything about the fight game. He's not a grappler/wrestler in the classical sense still has subs on his record but Usman is a state champion wrestler. I think it'll be either Usman gets rocked in the first for the upset or it's a snooze fest with usman holding the dominant positions throughout the match to the decision.

                                      Yan is too young and too smart for Aldo.

                                      RIbas gets the easy win but hopefully doesn't do too much damage....

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        @raznomore said in UFC:

                                        Fight Island is paid for and booked! Just in time for Mike Perry to bring the sport of MMA into disrepute...

                                        This man is a dead shit.

                                        How dumb is the old, fat guy to call Perry a motherfucker twice and mimic him?

                                        How dumb is Perry using the 'n' word?

                                        Gone With The Wind

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                                        raznomore
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #734

                                        @MiketheSnow the old guy just lost his mind and actually attacked Perry. Probably thought he was some whack job emo(look up Perry's latest fashion efforts on Instagram) and thought he could take him.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @raznomore said in UFC:

                                          Fight Island is paid for and booked!

                                          What are your predictions for the main card?

                                          Usman vs Masvidal
                                          Volkanovski vs Holloway
                                          Yan vs Aldo
                                          Andrade vs Namajunas
                                          Ribas vs VanZant

                                          Hmmm.. I just realised thats all the favourites. Yan/Aldo was the toughest pick.. I'm fairly confident in Volkanovski

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                                          MiketheSnow
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #735

                                          @Duluth said in UFC:

                                          @raznomore said in UFC:

                                          Fight Island is paid for and booked!

                                          What are your predictions for the main card?

                                          Usman vs Masvidal
                                          Volkanovski vs Holloway
                                          Yan vs Aldo
                                          Andrade vs Namajunas
                                          Ribas vs VanZant

                                          Hmmm.. I just realised thats all the favourites. Yan/Aldo was the toughest pick.. I'm fairly confident in Volkanovski

                                          Masvidal to batter Usman
                                          Holloway to retain his title

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