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  • R reprobate

    @Crucial
    Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.

    I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.

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    @reprobate said in AB Captain:

    @Crucial
    Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.

    I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.

    Yeah I reckon Tuipulotu should be given a crack at prop. It'd be good to have a captain in the front row.

    Aaron Smith might be a good shout for hooker too with that accurate throw.

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      @reprobate said in AB Captain:

      @Crucial
      Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think.

      Now we're getting into crazy. (for the ABs discussion)

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      @Crucial said in AB Captain:

      @reprobate said in AB Captain:

      @Crucial
      Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think.

      Now we're getting into crazy. (for the ABs discussion)

      (that's why I put the Blues bit). Got the tools though.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

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        @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

        @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

        Tana was 31 when he first captained in 2004. He only captained for 2 years. That was an excellent appointment.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @reprobate said in AB Captain:

          @Crucial
          Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.

          I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.

          Yeah I reckon Tuipulotu should be given a crack at prop. It'd be good to have a captain in the front row.

          Aaron Smith might be a good shout for hooker too with that accurate throw.

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          @Bones said in AB Captain:

          @reprobate said in AB Captain:

          @Crucial
          Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.

          I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.

          Yeah I reckon Tuipulotu should be given a crack at prop. It'd be good to have a captain in the front row.

          Aaron Smith might be a good shout for hooker too with that accurate throw.

          Well that's just stupid. Clearly if you start Tuipulotu at prop, you can't have Smith at 2 because his feet wouldn't touch the ground in scrums. I think the better way to go would be Jordie at hooker next to Patrick, that way you'd at least have a nice angling scrum, that'd properly mess with the oppo.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

            @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

            Tana was 31 when he first captained in 2004. He only captained for 2 years. That was an excellent appointment.

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            @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

            to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

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            • voodooV voodoo

              @Bones said in AB Captain:

              @reprobate said in AB Captain:

              @Crucial
              Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.

              I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.

              Yeah I reckon Tuipulotu should be given a crack at prop. It'd be good to have a captain in the front row.

              Aaron Smith might be a good shout for hooker too with that accurate throw.

              Well that's just stupid. Clearly if you start Tuipulotu at prop, you can't have Smith at 2 because his feet wouldn't touch the ground in scrums. I think the better way to go would be Jordie at hooker next to Patrick, that way you'd at least have a nice angling scrum, that'd properly mess with the oppo.

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              @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

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                @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

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                @Bones said in AB Captain:

                @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

                You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

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                  @Bones said in AB Captain:

                  @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

                  You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

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                  @Machpants said in AB Captain:

                  @Bones said in AB Captain:

                  @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

                  You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

                  But he's got the tools.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Machpants said in AB Captain:

                    @Bones said in AB Captain:

                    @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

                    You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

                    But he's got the tools.

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                    @Bones said in AB Captain:

                    @Machpants said in AB Captain:

                    @Bones said in AB Captain:

                    @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

                    You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

                    But he's got the tools.

                    Gobby Shite?

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                      @Bones said in AB Captain:

                      @Machpants said in AB Captain:

                      @Bones said in AB Captain:

                      @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

                      You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

                      But he's got the tools.

                      Gobby Shite?

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                      @Machpants my thoughts exactly.

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                        @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

                        He's 28 FFS NOT 38!

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

                          to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                          @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

                          to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

                          So who's the young gun that's going to be captain?

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                            @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

                            to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

                            So who's the young gun that's going to be captain?

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                            @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                            it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

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                              @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                              it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                              @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                              it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

                              Ok sorry. Didn't realise that your confusion was causing brain scrambles 😉

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                                it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

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                                @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                                i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

                                Who have they been? I wouldn't select Kirifi, Dalton, Christie or Hunt of Cane. None of them are close. Gibson is always broken. It's really just down to Ardie and Sam. I prefer to start a test match with Sam and bring on Ardie for impact.

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                                  i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

                                  Who have they been? I wouldn't select Kirifi, Dalton, Christie or Hunt of Cane. None of them are close. Gibson is always broken. It's really just down to Ardie and Sam. I prefer to start a test match with Sam and bring on Ardie for impact.

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                                  @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                                  thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

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                                    @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                                    thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                                    @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                                    thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

                                    I like Hunt, he's come back well this year after seemingly falling off the charts in recent years but can't see him surpassing Cane.

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                                      @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                                      thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

                                      I like Hunt, he's come back well this year after seemingly falling off the charts in recent years but can't see him surpassing Cane.

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                                      @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

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                                        Let's see how Hunt goes in the NI-SI game (assuming the match is played).

                                        Kirifi plays above his weight but he is a midget for an international loose forward.

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                                          @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

                                          Lentjes was selected ahead of him before being selected captain and proved he wasn't at the same standard as Hunt...then he got made captain.

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