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  • BonesB Bones

    @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

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    @Bones said in AB Captain:

    @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

    You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

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    • M Machpants

      @Bones said in AB Captain:

      @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

      You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

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      @Machpants said in AB Captain:

      @Bones said in AB Captain:

      @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

      You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

      But he's got the tools.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Machpants said in AB Captain:

        @Bones said in AB Captain:

        @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

        You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

        But he's got the tools.

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        @Bones said in AB Captain:

        @Machpants said in AB Captain:

        @Bones said in AB Captain:

        @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

        You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

        But he's got the tools.

        Gobby Shite?

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        • M Machpants

          @Bones said in AB Captain:

          @Machpants said in AB Captain:

          @Bones said in AB Captain:

          @voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.

          You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!

          But he's got the tools.

          Gobby Shite?

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          reprobate
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          @Machpants my thoughts exactly.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

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            @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

            @Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby

            He's 28 FFS NOT 38!

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

              to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

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              @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

              @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

              to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

              So who's the young gun that's going to be captain?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                @KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong

                to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again

                So who's the young gun that's going to be captain?

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                @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                  it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                  @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                  it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

                  Ok sorry. Didn't realise that your confusion was causing brain scrambles 😉

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played

                    it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                    i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

                    Who have they been? I wouldn't select Kirifi, Dalton, Christie or Hunt of Cane. None of them are close. Gibson is always broken. It's really just down to Ardie and Sam. I prefer to start a test match with Sam and bring on Ardie for impact.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                      i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey

                      Who have they been? I wouldn't select Kirifi, Dalton, Christie or Hunt of Cane. None of them are close. Gibson is always broken. It's really just down to Ardie and Sam. I prefer to start a test match with Sam and bring on Ardie for impact.

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                      @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                      thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                        thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                        @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                        thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

                        I like Hunt, he's come back well this year after seemingly falling off the charts in recent years but can't see him surpassing Cane.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                          @Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form

                          thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion

                          I like Hunt, he's come back well this year after seemingly falling off the charts in recent years but can't see him surpassing Cane.

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                          @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

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                            Let's see how Hunt goes in the NI-SI game (assuming the match is played).

                            Kirifi plays above his weight but he is a midget for an international loose forward.

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                              @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

                              Lentjes was selected ahead of him before being selected captain and proved he wasn't at the same standard as Hunt...then he got made captain.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:

                                @Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much

                                Lentjes was selected ahead of him before being selected captain and proved he wasn't at the same standard as Hunt...then he got made captain.

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                                @Bones we know that...just keeping it simple for the others

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                                  If not Cane then who?

                                  Props. None play 80.
                                  And who is a guaranteed starter? Moody?
                                  Not even SR captains

                                  Hooker. Again will be subbed.
                                  Taylor likely starter ATM.
                                  Coles not playing the house down

                                  Locks.
                                  Whitelock. Currently a starter, but wil he remain so when BBBR returns? and likely (or at least potetially) an 80 minute player. But only a short term option. Won't make 2023.
                                  Paddy T. Starter this year. Potentially 80 minute player. Not locked in to top XV (but could be).
                                  Barrett S. Not locked in to top 23.

                                  Looseforwards
                                  Unknown mix

                                  Halfbacks
                                  Won't play 80

                                  10s
                                  Who starts and who plays 80?

                                  Midfield
                                  Potential 80 minute players here. But the mix is unclear

                                  Wings
                                  Who picks a wing as captain?
                                  And again who is guaranteed to start? Rieko? But is he captaincy material?

                                  Fullback
                                  BB has potential to play 80

                                  Our criteria reading the thread seems to be:

                                  1. Must start
                                  2. Must play 80

                                  Reading my comments above no player does that any more. I think we need to adjust expectations. How about "Must be guaranteed in top XXIII"? May start, may come off the bench and we will have multiple players capable of calling the shots that we'll call on as required.

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    If not Cane then who?

                                    Props. None play 80.
                                    And who is a guaranteed starter? Moody?
                                    Not even SR captains

                                    Hooker. Again will be subbed.
                                    Taylor likely starter ATM.
                                    Coles not playing the house down

                                    Locks.
                                    Whitelock. Currently a starter, but wil he remain so when BBBR returns? and likely (or at least potetially) an 80 minute player. But only a short term option. Won't make 2023.
                                    Paddy T. Starter this year. Potentially 80 minute player. Not locked in to top XV (but could be).
                                    Barrett S. Not locked in to top 23.

                                    Looseforwards
                                    Unknown mix

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Won't play 80

                                    10s
                                    Who starts and who plays 80?

                                    Midfield
                                    Potential 80 minute players here. But the mix is unclear

                                    Wings
                                    Who picks a wing as captain?
                                    And again who is guaranteed to start? Rieko? But is he captaincy material?

                                    Fullback
                                    BB has potential to play 80

                                    Our criteria reading the thread seems to be:

                                    1. Must start
                                    2. Must play 80

                                    Reading my comments above no player does that any more. I think we need to adjust expectations. How about "Must be guaranteed in top XXIII"? May start, may come off the bench and we will have multiple players capable of calling the shots that we'll call on as required.

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                                    @booboo Frizzel, Aoane or Sotutu then.

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                                      I've never been a fan of the Cane appointment. Completely uninspiring choice and Savea should be the starting openside flanker.

                                      Taylor is the obvious choice as a first choice starter and emerging leader.

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                                      • sharkS shark

                                        I've never been a fan of the Cane appointment. Completely uninspiring choice and Savea should be the starting openside flanker.

                                        Taylor is the obvious choice as a first choice starter and emerging leader.

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                                        @shark said in AB Captain:

                                        I've never been a fan of the Cane appointment. Completely uninspiring choice and Savea should be the starting openside flanker.

                                        Taylor is the obvious choice as a first choice starter and emerging leader.

                                        Now that’s an unexpected opinion! 😉

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                                        • sharkS shark

                                          I've never been a fan of the Cane appointment. Completely uninspiring choice and Savea should be the starting openside flanker.

                                          Taylor is the obvious choice as a first choice starter and emerging leader.

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                                          @shark said in AB Captain:

                                          I've never been a fan of the Cane appointment. Completely uninspiring choice and Savea should be the starting openside flanker.

                                          Is that bait or humour? I forget which thread i'm in.

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