Black Caps v Pakistan

[Rapido]

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Looks like there are 445 instances of bowlers getting 10 in a match and 385 instances of batsmen getting over 200 (including triples and Lara's quad).

So 10fers slightly more common. I don'thave time to dig much further now but would be interested to see that over time. My hunch is that 10fers have become less common and doubles more common. Murali has 5% of all 10fers, and Warne another 2% though so that might not be the case.

In the TV commentary yesterday. They mentioned the NZ stats. I cant remember the exact number, but we had 2 more double hundreds than 10-fers.

Something like 36 to 34, or 26 to 24.

[Cyclops]

The other thing to consider is that a double requires one massive effort in a single innings, whereas 10fers (almost always) require sustained excellence over 2 innings.

[Snowy]

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

would be interested to see that over time. My hunch is that 10fers have become less common and doubles more common. Murali has 5% of all 10fers, and Warne another 2% though so that might not be the case.

I don't really count anything Murali did. Just my opinion on his action, but it would even out the numbers quite a bit.

Definitely be interesting over time as bats got better, pitches don't deteriorate as much (generally) 200 seems more common.

The 10fer list is seriously dominated by spinners. That's not going to happen in NZ. In fact the only bowler in the top 5 who isn't a spinner is paddles.

So my hunch is that your hunch is correct.

[Snowy]

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

The other thing to consider is that a double requires one massive effort in a single innings, whereas 10fers (almost always) require sustained excellence over 2 innings.

Bar two, yes for bowlers (hence the "almost always" I suppose).

Not sure that one of those is harder than the other. A batsman doesn't actually run for a lot of his runs, a bowler gets a good break to put his feet up. Both require some pretty intense concentration and physical effort.

[Hooroo]

How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

(I don't mean in the same test)

[Bovidae]

Botham has. 208 and 4 x 10-wkts.

[Bovidae]

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

The list might be smaller than we think. Neither Sobers, Kallis or Gillespie had a 10 wb.

[Hooroo]

@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

The list might be smaller than we think. Neither Sobers, Kallis or Gillespie had a 10 wb.

Wow!

Astle?

[Snowy]

@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

The list might be smaller than we think.

It might not qualify as a list.

Is there really only one?

[ACT Crusader]

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Well work today is going to suck without the cricket commentary in the background!

Doesn't the Aussie v India test start today at the SCG?

You're probably right, but yea, nah.
I'll probably check in on the score from time to time, but that's about the limit of my interest in games that the BC's aren't playing.

I love Aussie cricket. It filled a hole between the 80's and the Hesson/McCullum era

I quite like this India team. Bumrah is a gun and Ashwin is a master tactician with the ball.

[Bovidae]

@Hooroo Sadly, Nathan was restricted from bowling too many of his dangerous medium pacers.

@Snowy There could be others but none of usual suspects for all-rounders accomplished this feat.

[gt12]

@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo Sadly, Nathan was restricted from bowling too many of his dangerous medium pacers.

@Snowy There could be others but none of usual suspects for all-rounders accomplished this feat.

Shakib Al Hasan

https://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56143.html

[Bovidae]

@gt12 I only looked at the pace bowlers so was surprised that one of Imran, Kapil Dev, Flintoff or Stokes didn't do it.

[Cyclops]

Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

[Cyclops]

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

Jason Holder does, Stokes doesn't but might get a 10fer yet.

[gt12]

Holder

https://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/391485.html

[gt12]

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

Jason Holder does, Stokes doesn't but might get a 10fer yet.

Snap.

[Cyclops]

So we're at three right? Shakib, Holder Botham. Which is the same as 100/10 in the same match (Botham, Shakib and Imran Khan). Dunno which is the tougher achievement.

[Snowy]

Well at least we have something that is a list now, albeit small.

[Cyclops]

Oh and Akram, so 4 for the 200/10 career double.