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Black Caps v Pakistan

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

    The list might be smaller than we think. Neither Sobers, Kallis or Gillespie had a 10 wb.

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    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

    The list might be smaller than we think. Neither Sobers, Kallis or Gillespie had a 10 wb.

    Wow!

    Astle? 🙂

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

      How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

      The list might be smaller than we think. Neither Sobers, Kallis or Gillespie had a 10 wb.

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      @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

      The list might be smaller than we think.

      It might not qualify as a list.

      Is there really only one?

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        Well work today is going to suck without the cricket commentary in the background!

        Doesn't the Aussie v India test start today at the SCG?

        You're probably right, but yea, nah.
        I'll probably check in on the score from time to time, but that's about the limit of my interest in games that the BC's aren't playing.

        I love Aussie cricket. It filled a hole between the 80's and the Hesson/McCullum era

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        @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        Well work today is going to suck without the cricket commentary in the background!

        Doesn't the Aussie v India test start today at the SCG?

        You're probably right, but yea, nah.
        I'll probably check in on the score from time to time, but that's about the limit of my interest in games that the BC's aren't playing.

        I love Aussie cricket. It filled a hole between the 80's and the Hesson/McCullum era

        I quite like this India team. Bumrah is a gun and Ashwin is a master tactician with the ball.

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

          @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

          How many people have a 200 and a 10wb? Gillespie & Kallis? Sobers?

          The list might be smaller than we think. Neither Sobers, Kallis or Gillespie had a 10 wb.

          Wow!

          Astle? 🙂

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          @Hooroo Sadly, Nathan was restricted from bowling too many of his dangerous medium pacers. 😉

          @Snowy There could be others but none of usual suspects for all-rounders accomplished this feat.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Hooroo Sadly, Nathan was restricted from bowling too many of his dangerous medium pacers. 😉

            @Snowy There could be others but none of usual suspects for all-rounders accomplished this feat.

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            @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @Hooroo Sadly, Nathan was restricted from bowling too many of his dangerous medium pacers. 😉

            @Snowy There could be others but none of usual suspects for all-rounders accomplished this feat.

            Shakib Al Hasan

            https://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56143.html

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            • gt12G gt12

              @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @Hooroo Sadly, Nathan was restricted from bowling too many of his dangerous medium pacers. 😉

              @Snowy There could be others but none of usual suspects for all-rounders accomplished this feat.

              Shakib Al Hasan

              https://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56143.html

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              @gt12 I only looked at the pace bowlers so was surprised that one of Imran, Kapil Dev, Flintoff or Stokes didn't do it.

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                Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

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                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                  Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

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                  @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

                  Jason Holder does, Stokes doesn't but might get a 10fer yet.

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                    Holder

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/391485.html

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                    • CyclopsC Cyclops

                      @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                      Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

                      Jason Holder does, Stokes doesn't but might get a 10fer yet.

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                      @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                      @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                      Wasim Akram is in the 200/10 club too

                      Jason Holder does, Stokes doesn't but might get a 10fer yet.

                      Snap.

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                        So we're at three right? Shakib, Holder Botham. Which is the same as 100/10 in the same match (Botham, Shakib and Imran Khan). Dunno which is the tougher achievement.

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                          Well at least we have something that is a list now, albeit small.

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                            Oh and Akram, so 4 for the 200/10 career double.

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                              Mankad

                              https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/30939.html

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                                gt12
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                                Border!

                                https://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/4174.html

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                                  gt12
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                                  I'm pretty sure that is it - 6 players to have achieved it.

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                                    Border!

                                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/4174.html

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                                    @gt12 Allan Border - remarkable. 1989, 2 of the top three innings bowling were in the same game- 39 wickets at 39, and get a 10fer against a great batting lineup is just remarkable.

                                    It's up there with Gillespie burglaring a 200 as a nightwatchman.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      Mankad

                                      https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/30939.html

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                                      @gt12 Holy shit, Mankad. One of the most famous names in cricket (for different reasons).

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @gt12 Holy shit, Mankad. One of the most famous names in cricket (for different reasons).

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                                        @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                        @gt12 Holy shit, Mankad. One of the most famous names in cricket (for different reasons).

                                        Unfairly maligned I think, nothing wrong with a mankad in my book. Up to the non striker to be timing his backing up properly.

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                                        • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                          The other thing to consider is that a double requires one massive effort in a single innings, whereas 10fers (almost always) require sustained excellence over 2 innings.

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                                          @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          The other thing to consider is that a double requires one massive effort in a single innings, whereas 10fers (almost always) require sustained excellence over 2 innings.

                                          A double century is a set standard though. It usually means you have batted a day and a half, seen of one or two new balls and taken fresh spells from all the oppositions best bowlers without making an error (or in the case of Pakistan having them drop you five times on the way).

                                          10fers vary so much in quality between the mix of tail enders, game situation etc. 10fers are more a function of luck and opportunity - which is why you have so many seriously average spin bowlers on that list with 10fers like Krezja, Steve O'Keefe, Craig, Michael Bevan, Allan Border (vs 1980s West Indies of all teams) etc

                                          Jamieson's 10fer stood out because he gutted their top order twice - most 10fers rely on clearing the tail at least once if not twice.

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